It appears that these masterpieces of 20th century music for violin and piano are not as prolifically represented as perhaps they should be; this should make for a clear and concise debate as to which is the "preferred" version...
Our Summer BAL no. 29: Bartok Violin Sonatas
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I have:
Number 1. Oistrakh and Richter; Hyman Bress and Charles Reiner; Andre Gertler and Diane Andersen.
Number 2. Joseph Szigeti and Bela Bartok; Hyman Bress and Charles Reiner.
All on LP (the Szigeti and Bartok presumably issued originally on 78s). I first heard no. 1 in the Gertler and Andersen version, on Supraphon and no. 2 by Bress and Reiner, on RCA. The Szigeti and Bartok is very special, but I didnt come across it until quite recently. I dont know these works well enough to make a choice, but to my uncritical ears they all sound fine. For no. 1 I should think you'd be safe with Oistrakh and Richter and for no. 2 you could hardly do better than the composer himself at the piano, if you dont mind a rather vintage sound.
The Penguin Guide 2010 likes Gyorgy Pauk and Jeno Jando on Naxos and Christian Tetzlaff and Leif Ove Andsnes on Virgin. No mention of the composer's own version of no. 2, which is odd; I can hardly believe that such a historic performance has dropped out of the catalogue?
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Originally posted by umslopogaas View PostThe Penguin Guide 2010 likes Gyorgy Pauk and Jeno Jando on Naxos
No mention of the composer's own version of no. 2, which is odd; I can hardly believe that such a historic performance has dropped out of the catalogue?
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Originally posted by Zucchini View PostFaust by a country mile (again)
On LPs I still have Stern on CBS from which I first made the acquaintance of these distinctly challenging works. Some time I must re-spin them and see how they measure up to the lovely Isabelle.I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!
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Gidon Kremer and Martha Argerich caught beautifully live in Berlin's Philharmonie in 2006 are superlative in the first sonata imv - part of a live 2cd set which includes Kremer's compelling performance of the challenging solo sonata. Pity they didn't record the second sonata as well. Of the more modern recordings, I have heard Faust and Ehnes, but these seemed rather insipid in comparison to Kremer and Argerich.
Can't recall hearing any recordings of the second sonata which have really grabbed me, but I must investigate the Szigeti / Bartok recording as I haven't heard this.
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AmpH
In my dimly remembered memories of science, Am might be a reference to the Ampere, a measure of electrical power, and pH was definitely a measure of the acidity of a solution as noted by its hydrogen ion concentration, and I know this because I often had to measure those values and I was never sure about the reliability of the pH meter or of my knowledge of reading it.
So welcome from a befuddled scientist, I prowl these pages constantly, but seldom find anything of value to contribute.
But you must investigate Bartok's own performance. I have two versions on LP, both the same performance: on Philips (European issue) or Vanguard (USA issue) and both in the same cover design. I have no idea if they were ever re-issued on CD, but I will be surprised if they weren't.
Just trying the American Vanguard LP right now: it is astonishing, just as if Bartok and Szigeti were suddenly invited to perform in your living room. These "vintage" recordings can be a bit difficult for modern ears if they are large-scale orchestral items, but if they are chamber music and like me you are not a musician, just a fan of recorded music, you'd never know about the limitations of seventy year old recordings.
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Originally posted by umslopogaas View PostAmpH
In my dimly remembered memories of science, Am might be a reference to the Ampere, a measure of electrical power, and pH was definitely a measure of the acidity of a solution as noted by its hydrogen ion concentration, and I know this because I often had to measure those values and I was never sure about the reliability of the pH meter or of my knowledge of reading it.
So welcome from a befuddled scientist, I prowl these pages constantly, but seldom find anything of value to contribute.
But you must investigate Bartok's own performance. I have two versions on LP, both the same performance: on Philips (European issue) or Vanguard (USA issue) and both in the same cover design. I have no idea if they were ever re-issued on CD, but I will be surprised if they weren't.
Just trying the American Vanguard LP right now: it is astonishing, just as if Bartok and Szigeti were suddenly invited to perform in your living room. These "vintage" recordings can be a bit difficult for modern ears if they are large-scale orchestral items, but if they are chamber music and like me you are not a musician, just a fan of recorded music, you'd never know about the limitations of seventy year old recordings.
A quick search on Amazon UK reveals that the Szigeti / Bartok performance of the second sonata seems to have been issued on cd several times.
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Originally posted by AmpH View PostA quick search on Amazon UK reveals that the Szigeti / Bartok performance of the second sonata seems to have been issued on cd several times.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
Thanks be to Bartok .......... ( and to another forum member for advice on long sentence construction )
Amen
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