Our Summer BAL 28 : Rachmaninov Piano Concerto No 3

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #31
    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    No need to wait for ERNIE's wheels to grind exceeding slow, ferney

    Behold!

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rachmaninov-...ys+piano+solos
    The slowest milkcart in the West.

    Tempting, indeed - and as a stop-gap until somebody offers the 10CD set at, say, thirty quid ...

    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

    Comment

    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #32
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      The slowest milkcart in the West.

      Tempting, indeed - and as a stop-gap until somebody offers the 10CD set at, say, thirty quid ...

      That looks like a stonker!!
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

      Comment

      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25232

        #33
        and if you want to try before you buy, even at £6, it available to hear, here !

        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

        Comment

        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #34
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          and if you want to try before you buy, even at £6, it available to hear, here !

          http://wiltshire.naxosmusiclibrary.c...p?cid=8.112020
          Wow! Thanks, ts

          More fluffs in the performance than I remember, but still a great sense of narration and colour. I presume the gaps between tracks originate from the Naxos library, and aren't on the CD itself
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

          Comment

          • amateur51

            #35
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Wow! Thanks, ts

            More fluffs in the performance than I remember, but still a great sense of narration and colour. I presume the gaps between tracks originate from the Naxos library, and aren't on the CD itself
            Some hair-raising speeds and passage-work and some wonderfully crazy re-emphases but altogether a thrilling performance that demands to be heard at least once. A keeper

            Comment

            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11771

              #36
              As mentioned elsewhere finally tracked down a cheapish copy second hand of the Berman/Abbado - absolutely wonderful especially that monumental first movement cadenza . Abbado accompanies superbly - what a shame no Rachmaninov symphonies from him ?

              Comment

              • Richard Tarleton

                #37
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                If it seems too long, melodically poor, droopily expressive, indifferently orchestrated and full of flannel, padding and waffle, then the performance in question must be seriously duff. I don't agree that it's only the composer who avoids those evils. I've heard some stinkers though, it's true.
                What did for Rach 3 for me was when it was played by, I think, 3 finalists on the trot in the 1984 Leeds, including the winner Jon Kimura Parker. It inoculated me so successfully that I've never been able to listen to it since, in fact I struggle with Rachmaninov's orchestral works generally (except Pag Var). Ferney expresses much better than I possibly could how it affects me. I know, I know, we should just have turned the telly off.

                Comment

                • Barbirollians
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11771

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                  What did for Rach 3 for me was when it was played by, I think, 3 finalists on the trot in the 1984 Leeds, including the winner Jon Kimura Parker. It inoculated me so successfully that I've never been able to listen to it since, in fact I struggle with Rachmaninov's orchestral works generally (except Pag Var). Ferney expresses much better than I possibly could how it affects me. I know, I know, we should just have turned the telly off.
                  Really - somehow I have a memory that JKP played the Brahms 1 ??? No idea why .

                  I do feel sorry for you. The concerto continues to give me great pleasure whenever I listen to it - perhaps you have the concerto equivalent of a child who can no longer eat something because once they overindulged and it made them sick.

                  Comment

                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11771

                    #39
                    Yuja Wang has now recorded the Rachmaninov Third coupled with a rather strange bedfellow the Prokofiev 2. Mixed reviews .

                    Comment

                    • Lento
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 646

                      #40
                      Love it to bits, have to say. Final page can be great for a laugh if soloist and orchestra part company as happened in a spectacular car-crash on a live transmission of Valentina Lisitsa playing with the Bournemouth SO a few months ago. Can't remember who the conductor was, but it would be interesting to know who was to blame!

                      Comment

                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11771

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Lento View Post
                        Love it to bits, have to say. Final page can be great for a laugh if soloist and orchestra part company as happened in a spectacular car-crash on a live transmission of Valentina Lisitsa playing with the Bournemouth SO a few months ago. Can't remember who the conductor was, but it would be interesting to know who was to blame!
                        Oh dear - the Queen of You Tube's recording also received a rather lukewarm response from IGI of this parish in IRR.

                        Comment

                        • tigajen

                          #42
                          Cyril Smith/Weldon on Appian. A cracking performance.

                          Comment

                          • richardfinegold
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 7750

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Ouch - it may have been overhyped as a result of that film - which as I recall was well received at the time - but fhgl is far too harsh IMO .

                            I don't find any of the performances I have listed failing for those reasons .

                            Some others ... well yes you may have a point.
                            Shine cost $5.5M to make. It grossed over 50 million in theaters and perhaps another 20 in video. Not Star Wars money, but I wish my investments performed as well. It also won a few Oscars....

                            I was an undergraduate in the 1970s when Vladimir Horowitz ended one of his retirements. He played this piece in New York with Ormandy conducting the NY Phil. A recording was issued from the concert and sold quite well. I was fortunate enough to attend his next Concert, in Ann Arbor, featuring the same work, this time with Ormandy conducting the Philadelphians.
                            My two favorites are Ashkenazy with Ormandy /Philly, and the Composer with Ormandy. The latter makes many passages come alive which tend to sound like mindless note spinning in other recordings.

                            Comment

                            • Alison
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6475

                              #44
                              I have always found the Pletnev version the one to go back to. No account of the first movement cadenza is quite so staggering in my experience.

                              Comment

                              • visualnickmos
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3615

                                #45
                                Originally posted by tigajen View Post
                                Cyril Smith/Weldon on Appian. A cracking performance.
                                Not heard of him apart from the revolting paedo Liberal MP (now deceased so he can't sue) but it clearly isn't him. Just for clarity.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X