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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
    Thought I'd go from my most recent (Barbirolli) to the earliest - Rosina Buckman and Tudor Davies in English in 1924 (not 1921 as I wrote in #8. And the conductor is Goossens sohn, not pere.

    It's a complete delight! Sad that they recorded it just months before the arrival of the microphone and electrical recording, but one can sense immediately why Buckman was so admired as Butterfly, a role she first sang with Beecham's company during WW1. And Tudor Davies - really first rate!
    I must give the Pappano another spin.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
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      #17
      Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
      I too (cf #1) regarded this piece as grauitously cruel and was happy to forgo live performances, and I haven't listened much to recordings.
      Well - that’s Puccini, I’m afraid. He generally chose tragic and nasty libretti.

      But the music is glorious.

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      • verismissimo
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Which is your favourite ?
        After many years, just listened again to Toti Dal Monte with Gigli from 1939.

        As one might expect, La Toti is a total delight as Butterfly - youthful-sounding, delicate, charming. And, although I'm generally a bit allergic to Gigli, he's a highly focused Pinkerton. Altogether, well worth having.

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
          After many years, just listened again to Toti Dal Monte with Gigli from 1939.

          As one might expect, La Toti is a total delight as Butterfly - youthful-sounding, delicate, charming. And, although I'm generally a bit allergic to Gigli, he's a highly focused Pinkerton. Altogether, well worth having.
          Funnily enough in Gramophone when the Tebaldi/Serafin was released in 1959 the Toti dal Monte and Gigli was re-released at the same time and Andrew Porter clearly preferred their 1939 recording .

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          • verismissimo
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Which is your favourite ?
            On to Callas and Gedda with Karajan in 1955. Neither seems to be a good fit with their roles. Callas too screechy and intense for a plausible Butterfly.

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            • verismissimo
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              • Nov 2010
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              #21
              I've been pondering why this opera seems to have stirred up such negative responses among some boarders.

              It's a highly focused and pioneering morality story: powerfully anti-racist, anti-sexist, even anti paediphilia and sexual predators.

              Is all this going too far in some way?

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                After many years, just listened again to Toti Dal Monte with Gigli from 1939.

                As one might expect, La Toti is a total delight as Butterfly - youthful-sounding, delicate, charming. And, although I'm generally a bit allergic to Gigli, he's a highly focused Pinkerton. Altogether, well worth having.
                Bought a second hand copy - notably variable hiss levels - Toti’s Un bel di Vedremo one of the hissy bits . Although her voice is nothing like Callas’s her acting is as rewarding
                as her singing which is dramatic and nimble if not the prettiest. Gigli is wonderful .

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  Toti cries a lot but you feel wrung out at the end of this recording . Extraordinarily dramatic a complete classic of the gramophone . So glad to have been introduced to it.

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