Our Summer BAL 2: Elgar Cello Concerto

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #31
    Although i have the Du Pre, the Isserlis be worth acquiring?
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • Osborn

      #32
      Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
      Is Du Pre/Barbirolli still the benchmark here? Or has the world moved on?
      Alisa Weilerstein hasn't been mentioned. Her 2010 live performance (on EuroArts DVD) at the Sheldonian with the BPO & Barenboim is truly magnificant, full of fervour & intensely musical & very much her own. I am far more likely to play that again than the sometimes OTT Du Pre. Barenboim (who sometimes makes Elgar sound better than it is) & the BPO support her to perfection & show that they are in a rather different league than Barbirolli's band.

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      • LeMartinPecheur
        Full Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4717

        #33
        Originally posted by Osborn View Post
        Alisa Weilerstein hasn't been mentioned. Her 2010 live performance (on EuroArts DVD) at the Sheldonian with the BPO & Barenboim is truly magnificant, full of fervour & intensely musical & very much her own. I am far more likely to play that again than the sometimes OTT Du Pre. Barenboim (who sometimes makes Elgar sound better than it is) & the BPO support her to perfection & show that they are in a rather different league than Barbirolli's band.
        Sorry Osborn, my wife and I watched Weilerstein/BPO/Barenboim on TV and we both thought she was hopelessly mannered and fake-emotional. Despite being reared - like so many - on Du Pre I can usually find something to enjoy in any performance of this work, but this for us was a 'performance' too far!
        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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        • verismissimo
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2957

          #34
          I've been listening today to WH Squire's 1930 recording with the Halle under Hamilton Harty - and it's absolutely magnificent. Hard to know why it has been virtually ignored. The playing is more assertive, more masculine, than one is used to hearing in this work. His performance was panned in the Gramophone at the time. The anon reviewer (presumably Compton Mackenzie) wrote, "...not quite my ideal in capturing the spiritual qualities of the music." Indeed, it is quite different in character from the two previous recordings, both by Beatrice Harrison with the composer.

          I have the Squire on what appears to be a privately published LP, the transfer from 78s done superbly by Bryan Crimp in 1981. Crimp manages to keep in all the brilliance of the sound (along with an acceptable amount of snap, crackle and pop), whereas the transfer of the 1928 recording of Harrison (by AC Griffith), also on LP, seems to have removed all the surface noise, along with much of the bloom in the playing. I wonder if the recent CD issue from EMI comes from the same source, or whether they went back to the metal masters? Anyone tried it?

          I think the Squire is available by download - from what source I can't say.

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          • aeolium
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3992

            #35
            verismissimo, I'd be interested in hearing that Squire/Halle/Harty recording. I'm a great admirer of Harty as a conductor, and I like some of his compositions too.
            Last edited by aeolium; 26-07-11, 21:49. Reason: typo

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #36
              Thanks for that, verismissimo. It certainly did not take long to find the FLAC download.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #37
                Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                verismissimo, I'd be interested in hearing that Squire/Halle/Harty recording. I'm a great admirer of Harty as a conductor, and I like some of his compositions too.
                Google, aeolium. Google.

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #38
                  Wow! That really is a very good transfer, even converted to 320kbps mono mp3 (which is easier for me to play back from a memory stick plugged into my player).

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                  • Pianophile
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 53

                    #39
                    Elgar/Felix Schmidt/LSO

                    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                    I'm very fond of a 'cheapie' version by Felix Schmidt with the LSO. It was on the LSO's own label but not what we now understand as 'LSO Live' being produced by the Orchestra and marketed by John Boyden's company.

                    I forget who the conductor wa but once I have my cds sorted out and I can find it I'll post more.
                    I love this recording! The conductor is Rafael Fruhbeck De Burgos. The slow movement is particularly lovely without the cloying sentimentality of some versions.

                    (My first post. Haven't quite got the hang of this yet!)

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                    • verismissimo
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 2957

                      #40
                      Welcome, Pianophile!

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                      • Norfolk Born

                        #41
                        Yes, welcome! Thanks for confirming my earlier suggestion concerning the name of the conductor.
                        You're not related to Pianorak, are you?

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20575

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Pianophile View Post
                          (My first post. Haven't quite got the hang of this yet!)
                          On the contrary, you appear to be fully in control, even to the inclusion of a quoted message.

                          And welcome.

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            #43
                            Good to see another piano fan! Although my username sugests otherwise, I do play piano as well!

                            What waqs the other recording, apart from the Isserlis that was mentioned?
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • Pianophile
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 53

                              #44
                              Thank you for making me welcome. As a confirmed technophobe, I'm rather feeling my way around the message board at the moment, although I've been a huge fan of this site since the R3 message board closed last year. No relation to Pianorak as far as I know.

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                              • Dave2002
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 18047

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Google, aeolium. Google.
                                I tried googling "aeolium" . Try the Parlour.

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