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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    Our Summer BAL 67: Stravinsky Symphony in three movements

    Premiered on 24 January 1946 (NYPO/Stravinsky), some nine months before Copland's Third (18 October 1946; BSO/Koussevitzky), Stravinsky's Symphony in three movements has fared better in number of available recordings than the Copland.

    I suspect that, like me, many were introduced to the work by Stravinsky's Columbia recording (coupled on LP with the Violin concerto), which still holds a special attraction.
    But which others are worth investigating?

    OSR/Ansermet
    Deutsches SO Berlin/Ashkenazy
    Israel PO/Bernstein
    American SO/Botstein
    BPO/Boulez
    Chicago SO/Boulez
    Philharmonia/Craft
    Bavarian RSO/Davis
    LSO/Davis
    OSR/Dutoit
    VPO/Furtwangler
    LSO/Gergiev
    RSNO/Gibson
    SW German RSO/Gielen
    NYPO/Gilbert
    LSO/Goossens
    FrenchNRO/Horenstein
    OSR/Jarvi
    Moscow Phil SO/Kitayenko
    Concertgebouw O/Klemperer
    Philharmonia O/Klemperer
    Bavarian RSO/Maazel
    NYPO/Mehta
    Bamberg SO/Nott
    Melbourne SO/Otterloo
    BPO/Rattle
    CBSO/Rattle
    LSO/Rozhdestvensky
    Bavarian RSO/Sacher
    Philharmonia O/Salonen
    Finnish RSO/Saraste
    NZSO/Shao
    Philharmonia/Silvestri
    Chicago SO/Solti
    BBCSO/Stravinsky
    Columbia SO/Stravinsky
    NYPO/Stravinsky
    SW German RSO/Stravinsky
    LSO/MTT
    St Petersburg State Academic SO/Titov
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 04-08-19, 17:34. Reason: Orchestra added for Silvestri recording.
  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 11061

    #2
    Stravinsky: Symphony in three movements (video with score)

    Haven't investigated yet to discover the performers:

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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
      • 11061

      #3
      I rather like this 'interpretation' too:

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        Let's not forget the BBC Music Magazine cover disc (BBCSSO, Volkov):

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        • Pulcinella
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          • Feb 2014
          • 11061

          #5
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          Let's not forget the BBC Music Magazine cover disc (BBCSSO, Volkov):

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          • gurnemanz
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7405

            #6
            I remember first being grabbed by this work in a broadcast Radio 3 concert which I think also included Schoenberg's A Survivor from Warsaw. It must have been late 60s or early 70s. I can't remember performers. I think I must have recorded it on reel-to-reel tape.

            I have two CD versions: Composer/CSO, as mentioned, and Boulez/BPO

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            • LeMartinPecheur
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              • Apr 2007
              • 4717

              #7
              Apart from CSO/Stravinsky and the Volkov BBCMM I have Martin Cotton's somewhat left-field BaL choice from 2006, RSNO/ Gibson on budget Chandos.



              Liked it when I got it but haven't made any side-by-side comparisons.
              I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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              • ChrisBennell
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                • Sep 2014
                • 171

                #8
                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                Stravinsky: Symphony in three movements (video with score)

                Haven't investigated yet to discover the performers:

                https://youtu.be/FB-NzpYwC3Y
                Hey, that's pretty good - its Berlin Phil under Boulez, apparently. Fascinating to try to follow the score. I can look forward to some happy hours with this - !

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ChrisBennell View Post
                  Hey, that's pretty good - its Berlin Phil under Boulez, apparently. Fascinating to try to follow the score. I can look forward to some happy hours with this - !

                  Described in the 2009 Penguin Guide as follows:
                  The Symphony in three movements brings a violent approach from Boulez, with the Berliners relishing the jazzy outbursts of the outer movements and the warmth of the central slow movement.

                  Like LMP, I haven't done any side-by-side comparisons, but I don't remember being particularly disappointed by any of the (several!) in my collection; I'm hoping that this thread will prompt me to listen to at least some of them more critically.
                  That said, I HAVE just (re)listened to the BBCMM CD, and found it a bit ponderous and bottom heavy in places, but maybe I need to check the markings in the score!

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                  • Richard Barrett
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                    • Jan 2016
                    • 6259

                    #10
                    This is an interesting choice... for some reason I've never spent much time with this piece, in comparison with the Symphony in C which I know very well. Recently I (predictably) listened a few times to the Gielen recording and liked it a lot. Actually, that and the CBS Stravinsky are the only ones I have. I'll try to listen to a couple more over the weekend.

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                    • jayne lee wilson
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                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      #11
                      Away from the more obvious choices, I would strongly recommend the LSO/Goosens, especially on the 24/96 Everest mastering from tape originals, as The One for sheer impact and immediacy. The LSO play with an apt off-the-hook rawness, sound is physically stunning, with jagged, weighty rhythms hitting the bulls-eye every time. Humour and colour to die for. You won't forget your first encounter with this one!
                      (The Ebony Concerto is thrown off with great wit & panache).

                      A recording of Startling realism and Vivid acoustic presence. A winner!

                      Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 04-08-19, 02:41.

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        Away from the more obvious choices, I would strongly recommend the LSO/Goosens, especially on the 24/96 Everest mastering from tape originals, as The One for sheer impact and immediacy. The LSO play with an apt off-the-hook rawness, sound is physically stunning, with jagged, weighty rhythms hitting the bulls-eye every time. Humour and colour to die for. You won't forget your first encounter with this one!
                        (The Ebony Concerto is thrown off with great wit & panache).

                        A recording of Startling realism and Vivid acoustic presence. A winner!

                        https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/st.../0848033016120
                        I bought the LP in my youth. Having been besotted with the work since first hearing it on the Third Programme prior to my teens and further having saved up to buy the composer's Columbia recording when it came out, I thought the Goosens a pale alternative. My disdain brought a shocked response from fellow Scratch Orchestra member Hugh Shrapnel when I mentioned it to him. He held the recording in similar regard to your own. Listening anew, I wonder if my earlier reaction was conditioned by the somewhat scrappy and relatively prosaic performance of the Ebony Concerto by the ageing Woody Herman's band on the same LP (again, my benchmark was the composer's recording with Benny Goodman). I still find the composer's own recorded performances of both works more 'punchy' but there is no denying the considerable precision and general architecture of the Goosens. Thanks for the fillip to my reconsidering this recording.

                        [The QOBUZ offering is decidedly overpriced.]
                        Last edited by Bryn; 04-08-19, 07:37. Reason: Update.

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                        • Pulcinella
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                          • Feb 2014
                          • 11061

                          #13
                          I too had the Goossens LP in my youth, but now have little recollection of it (though the scrappy Ebony concerto rings a vague bell); it seems not to be available on Deezer.
                          :-(

                          I also had the Klemperer (well, it was coupled with Pulcinella Suite (), and had a nice Picasso on the cover), and thought it decidedly stogy. Not a version I used to play.


                          Listened (via Deezer) to the ones I could find there yesterday: Nott, Davis (LSO) (though I have that on CD too), and Kitayenko (I think; Deezer was not very clear, and all I could tell was that Moscow was somehow involved!); not as impressed with the Nott as I'd hoped to be from a review I'd seen.
                          Last edited by Pulcinella; 04-08-19, 07:55. Reason: Link to Klemperer cover art added.

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                          • silvestrione
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                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1722

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            Premiered on 24 January 1946 (NYPO/Stravinsky), some nine months before Copland's Third (18 October 1946; BSO/Koussevitzky), Stravinsky's Symphony in three movements has fared better in number of available recordings than the Copland.

                            I suspect that, like me, many were introduced to the work by Stravinsky's Columbia recording (coupled on LP with the Violin concerto), which still holds a special attraction.
                            But which others are worth investigating?

                            OSR/Ansermet
                            Deutsches SO Berlin/Ashkenazy
                            Israel PO/Bernstein
                            American SO/Botstein
                            BPO/Boulez
                            Chicago SO/Boulez
                            Philharmonia/Craft
                            Bavarian RSO/Davis
                            LSO/Davis
                            OSR/Dutoit
                            VPO/Furtwangler
                            LSO/Gergiev
                            RSNO/Gibson
                            SW German RSO/Gielen
                            NYPO/Gilbert
                            LSO/Goossens
                            FrenchNRO/Horenstein
                            OSR/Jarvi
                            Moscow Phil SO/Kitayenko
                            Concertgebouw O/Klemperer
                            Philharmonia O/Klemperer
                            Bavarian RSO/Maazel
                            NYPO/Mehta
                            Bamberg SO/Nott
                            Melbourne SO/Otterloo
                            BPO/Rattle
                            CBSO/Rattle
                            LSO/Rozhdestvensky
                            Bavarian RSO/Sacher
                            Philharmonia O/Salonen
                            Finnish RSO/Saraste
                            NZSO/Shao
                            ?/Silvestri
                            Chicago SO/Solti
                            BBCSO/Stravinsky
                            Columbia SO/Stravinsky
                            NYPO/Stravinsky
                            SW German RSO/Stravinsky
                            LSO/MTT
                            St Petersburg State Academic SO/Titov
                            The Silvestri is with the Philharmonia. Not quite normal territory for him. I must give it a spin later.

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                            • Pulcinella
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                              • Feb 2014
                              • 11061

                              #15
                              Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                              The Silvestri is with the Philharmonia. Not quite normal territory for him. I must give it a spin later.
                              Thanks; list updated.

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