Our Summer BAL 61: Debussy Jeux

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  • Beef Oven!
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    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #16
    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    Also chosen by Warner as representing the work in their "Claude Debussy - The Complete Works" 33 CD boxed set:



    An excellent survey, taking in recordings from various non-Warner labels, including the Premiere Suite d'Orchestre in the Les Siècles/Roth 'live' recording.
    And Xavier-Roth's Les Siecles La Mer, but no Jeux yet.

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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
      • 11062

      #17
      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      And Xavier-Roth's Les Siecles La Mer, but no Jeux yet.
      Due out in the autumn, according to post #1.

      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Great - the first two of the current runs of Our Summer BaLs have both been dedicated to favourite works of mine.
      And Cleveland/Boulez versions doing well in both!

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      • Bryn
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        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #18
        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        And Xavier-Roth's Les Siecles La Mer, but no Jeux yet.

        The Xavier-Roth La Mer is not included in the Warner box. For that, they opted for Philharmonia/Giulini.

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        • Beef Oven!
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          • Sep 2013
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          #19
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          The Xavier-Roth La Mer is not included in the Warner box. For that, they opted for Philharmonia/Giulini.
          I would have sworn I saw it listed. Mea culpa.

          Btw, have you heard that first orchestral suite?

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          • Bryn
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            • Mar 2007
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            #20
            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            I would have sworn I saw it listed. Mea culpa.

            Btw, have you heard that first orchestral suite?
            I listened to it earlier this afternoon. Decidedly early Debussy. If he orchestrated the third movement, it was not recovered with the other three orchestrated movements and the 2 piano version. The third movement was orchestrated this century by Philippe Manoury.

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
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              #21
              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              I listened to it earlier this afternoon. Decidedly early Debussy. If he orchestrated the third movement, it was not recovered with the other three orchestrated movements and the 2 piano version. The third movement was orchestrated this century by Philippe Manoury.
              I was thinking about purchasing that recording but was worried that it might be a bit 'early Debussy' for my liking. I might just download La Mer. Yes, I'd read hat Manoury had orchestrated the third movement (btb, I quite like Manoury's opera '60th Parallel').

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              • BBMmk2
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                And Xavier-Roth's Les Siecles La Mer, but no Jeux yet.
                Now that be worth waiting for!
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  Now that be worth waiting for!
                  Yes, will be interesting to hear what he does with it, period instruments n’all.

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                  • gurnemanz
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7405

                    #24
                    Thanks so much for pointing us towards this music. I have long had the Haitink Debussy Orchestral Music twofer on Philips Duo but had not devoted that much attention to that particular work. I have duly listened to it a couple of times today. Since ballet music can only really be fully appreciated in the theatre with dancers, I have also now watched a YouTube video. I greatly enjoyed the experience. We cannot know how close they have got to the staging and choreography of the original performance (which was not a success) but it seemed to me to be a very worthwhile attempt. They danced beautifully, portraying the graceful and playful interaction of a tennis game, which, based on the title Jeux, must be the essence of the piece (even if the dance moves did not seem to be specifically tennis-related). I liked the Edwardian tennis costumes and the participants in the game create an element of linear narrative which is not conveyed in the music on its own.

                    video link

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11751

                      #25
                      The Cluytens was also on a Royal Classics disc coupled with Barbirolli's wonderful late recordings of La Mer and the Nocturnes with the Orchestre de Paris .

                      Of my three recordings Haitink does just shade Cluytens and Rattle for me but all are excellent.

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                      • richardfinegold
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                        • Sep 2012
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                        #26
                        I still haven’t connected with this piece. I’ve heard it twice in concert, and have recordings by Martinon and Haitink, and I otherwise listen to a lot of Debussy.

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                        • BBMmk2
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                          I still haven’t connected with this piece. I’ve heard it twice in concert, and have recordings by Martinon and Haitink, and I otherwise listen to a lot of Debussy.
                          Basically it’s written in a series of shall I say blocks. Or perhaps scenes maybe a better word. I studied this work at OU.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • verismissimo
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            I even heard the LPO play Jeux, brilliantly, with Vladimir Jurowski at the Festival Hall … and remained unmoved.

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                            • Joseph K
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                              • Oct 2017
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              I studied this work at OU.
                              Open University?

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                              • Beef Oven!
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                                • Sep 2013
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                                Open University?
                                Yes. It's a university for people who didn't go when they were 18.

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