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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    Our Summer BAL no 58 Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto

    Another surprising long term omission from BAL it seems looking at Presto's website .

    Hundreds of recordings I imagine . Of all the recordings I have and it has often been coupled with another work for which I have primarily bought the record if pushed to keep only one or two or perhaps three it would be the early Ida Haendel with Basil Cameron, the Chung/Previn and Oistrakh and Ormandy .

    Parting with Campoli, Milstein,Stern,Frang and Holmes would also be hard .

    What would be your library choice ?
    Last edited by Barbirollians; 25-08-17, 07:49.
  • Tony Halstead
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1717

    #2
    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Another surprising long term omission from BAL it seems looking at Presto's website .

    Hundreds of recordings I imagine . Of all the recordings I have and it has often been coupled with another work for which I have primarily bought the record if pushed to keep only one or two or perhaps three it would be the early Ida Haendel with Basil Cameron, the Chung/Previn and Oistrakh and Ormandy .

    Parting with Campoli, Milstein,Stern,Frang and Holmes would also be hard .

    What would be your library choice ?
    Pat Kop

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    • pastoralguy
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7816

      #3
      This is the work that inspired me to learn the violin and it's been a thread running through my life. It's often been a balm when things were going badly.

      Not so lng ago, I was so miserable in my job that I would have my breaks sitting in my motor car and the first movement of the Tchaikovsky concerto was perfect for the time clot I had. Over the years, I've attempted to either buy or at least hear every recording available and there are come I've listened to many times.

      My absolute 'yardstick' is the record that started my active involvement in classical music. It's a Melodiya Lp where Igor Oistrakh is accompanied by his father, the great Russian Violinist David Oistrakh with the Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra. Alas, it's never been released on cd so I have to rely on an open reel tape.

      Oops. Mrs. PG tells me we have to go out so I'll write more late.

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      • Hornspieler
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        • Sep 2012
        • 1847

        #4
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Another surprising long term omission from BAL it seems looking at Presto's website .

        Hundreds of recordings I imagine . Of all the recordings I have and it has often been coupled with another work for which I have primarily bought the record if pushed to keep only one or two or perhaps three it would be the early Ida Haendel with Basil Cameron, the Chung/Previn and Oistrakh and Ormandy .

        Parting with Campoli, Milstein,Stern,Frang and Holmes would also be hard .

        What would be your library choice ?
        Ida Haendel for me - but then I have a vested interest in promoting a very dear friend of the family.

        Of the others?

        Well Oistrakh must be an obvious choice' I suppose.


        Here's a nice little story that I'm sure will amply justify my choice:-

        I was driving Ida from her hotel in Belfast to Aldergrove Airport. She was wearing a mink stole.
        My six year old daughter, Georgina, had come along for the ride.
        "Oh Miss Handel" she said "I do like your Weasel!"

        Ida smiled and patted her arm.
        "You're quite right, dear. It is a Weasel"

        HS
        Last edited by Hornspieler; 25-08-17, 09:45.

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        • visualnickmos
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3614

          #5
          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
          Ida Haendel for me - but then I have a vested interest in promoting a very dear friend of the family.

          Of the others?

          Well Oistrakh must be an obvious choice' I suppose.


          Here's a nice little story that I'm sure will amply justify my choice:-

          I was driving Ida from her hotel in Belfast to Aldergrove Airport. She was wearing a mink stole.
          My six year old daughter, Georgina, had come along for the ride.
          "Oh Miss Handel" she said "I do like your Weasel!"

          Ida smiled and patted her arm.
          "You're quite right, dear. It is a Weasel"

          HS
          A lovely story. It's one the aspects that make this forum so enthralling.
          Ida Haendel (in the few recordings of hers, that I have) seems to produce something pure and potent at the same time. Magical. Unique.

          I must 'investigate' her Tchaikovsky violin concerto.

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          • Zucchini
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            • Nov 2010
            • 917

            #6
            Baiba Skride if she's recorded it.
            Brilliant live (and not dead like most who have/will be mentioned)

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20575

              #7
              It depends upon whether you want it absolutely complete, or with the small cuts in the finale. Despite being a huge Tchaikovsky fan, I prefer it with the cuts, as these involve the omission of over-repetitive passages.

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              • richardfinegold
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                • Sep 2012
                • 7747

                #8
                I learned the piece from an Isaac Stern recording which I wound up becoming reacquainted with when I purchased an Ormandy Tchaikovsky box. It still thrills but Stern is obviously miked far to closely. Heifetz with Reiner and Oistrakh with anyone leave no room for complaint. I think every virtuoso violinist has had a go at it.
                I think it might be interesting to compare versions by students of Auer, or 1 generation removed from Auer. Milstein,Heifetz, Spivakossky, Elian, Zimbalist, Stern, etc

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                • Stanfordian
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 9329

                  #9
                  In the Tchaikovsky violin concerto these two recordings are the ones that I reach for first:

                  a) Kyung-Wha Chung with Montreal Symphony Orchestra/Charles Dutoit - Decca (issued 1982)
                  b) Lisa Batiashvili with Staatskapelle Berlin/Daniel Barenboim - Deutsche Grammophon (issued 2016)
                  Both gorgeous recordings!
                  Last edited by Stanfordian; 25-08-17, 13:07.

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                  • visualnickmos
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3614

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                    In the Tchaikovsky violin concerto these two recordings are the ones that I reach for first:

                    a) Kyung-Wha Chung with Montreal Symphony Orchestra/Charles Dutoit - Decca (issued 1982)
                    b) Lisa Batiashvili with Staatskapelle Berlin/Daniel Barenboim - Deutsche Grammophon (issued 2016)
                    Nice call. Just wondering what your choice (b) was BEFORE 2016?

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                    • Petrushka
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12332

                      #11
                      I was in Salzburg's main square in 1987 and saw a string puppet playing the violin to the last movement of the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto coming from a loudspeaker The puppeteer was a master and it was enthralling to watch.

                      Chung/LSO/Previn or Batiashavili/SKB/Barenboim for me.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • Richard Tarleton

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                        Ida Haendel for me - but then I have a vested interest in promoting a very dear friend of the family.

                        Of the others?

                        Well Oistrakh must be an obvious choice' I suppose.
                        My first live performance, RFH 1971, was to have been performed by Oistrach but was in the event performed by Ida Haendel when Oistrach was prevented from coming. Happily I saw him twice the following year. These days my only recording is Milstein (coupled with Argerich/PC1).

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                        • Stanfordian
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9329

                          #13
                          Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                          Nice call. Just wondering what your choice (b) was BEFORE 2016?
                          Hiya visualnickmos,


                          Non comprehendi! I've given a pre-2016 choice. It's Kyung-Wha Chung with Dutoit.
                          Last edited by Stanfordian; 25-08-17, 13:07.

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                          • visualnickmos
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3614

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                            Hiya visualnickmos,


                            Non comprehendi! I've given a pre-2016 choice. It's Kyung-Wha Chung with Dutoit.
                            I was really just curious as to what your pre-2016 a) and b) were - sorry if I misunderstood.
                            Must be all the Glazunov symphonies I've been 'getting into' over the last few days!

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              I don't think I have this!
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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