Our Summer BAL 12 - Bruckner's 4th Symphony

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  • visualnickmos
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3616

    Yes - what am I saying? Jochum is the man I meant; I can't explain why I typed Bohm????? Apart from the very slight dyslexia that I think I have. I think one word and another gets typed

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      No problem, visnic; just for moment there you had my hopes up! The Jochum DG set is excellent (I got to know the Eighth from this set) - haven't heard anything from the EMI cycle for about twenty years!
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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11822

        I know that 8th is frequently disparaged for using the Nowak edition and for its gear changes but I love it too .

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        • amateur51

          Originally posted by visualnickmos
          Yes - what am I saying? Jochum is the man I meant; I can't explain why I typed Bohm????? Apart from the very slight dyslexia that I think I have. I think one word and another gets typed
          That happens to me quite a bit too, visualnickmos. I try not to think about it too much

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11822

            Just listened to this podcast . Despite my liking for the Wand I found SJ's criticisms of the Karajan bizarre- the bit he thought was " ghastly" I thought was terrific !

            The same applied to the Bohm extract that he thought had not worn well - I thought that was gripping !

            The failure to consider the Walter was extraordinary when the Harnoncourt was included ! Wand was the only one of his top four I really rated .

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            • cloughie
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              • Dec 2011
              • 22221

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte
              ? Jochum's, visnic - or have I missed something? (A Böhm Bruckner cycle isn't something I'd want to miss!)
              I have 3 4 and 7 annd there is an 8 on DG - did he do any more?

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by cloughie
                I have 3 4 and 7 annd there is an 8 on DG - did he do any more?
                I fear not, cloughie; hence my excitement at the prospect of an entire Bruckner cycle!

                There is a recording of the Seventh from 1943 that is remarkable for some firey speeds in the first movement: very different from the stereo version and worth the chip shop acoustic!

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11822

                  What are the Bohm DG 7 & 8 like ?

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by Barbirollians
                    What are the Bohm DG 7 & 8 like ?
                    I don't know the Eighth, Barbs, but the Seventh is very good: warm and lyrical but with a good sense of forward movement - a mixture of the best features of Walter and Klemperer together with something all Böhm's own. One of his best studio recordings, I think.
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                    • PJPJ
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1461

                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      I don't know the Eighth, Barbs, but the Seventh is very good: warm and lyrical but with a good sense of forward movement - a mixture of the best features of Walter and Klemperer together with something all Böhm's own. One of his best studio recordings, I think.
                      This live 7th from Vienna is even more impressive; if you haven't already got a copy it's worth keeping an eye open for one.

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                      • Petrushka
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12366

                        Originally posted by PJPJ
                        This live 7th from Vienna is even more impressive; if you haven't already got a copy it's worth keeping an eye open for one.
                        I assume you are referring to the live 1976 Bruckner 7 that Böhm conducted with the VPO in Salzburg? Available on the Andante label and one which I've raved about several times on here.

                        Böhm also recorded the 4th and 5th with the Dresden Staatskapelle in the 1930s and now available on Profil. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bruckner-Sym...955417&sr=1-18
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • PJPJ
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1461

                          Originally posted by Petrushka
                          I assume you are referring to the live 1976 Bruckner 7 that Böhm conducted with the VPO in Salzburg? Available on the Andante label and one which I've raved about several times on here.

                          Böhm also recorded the 4th and 5th with the Dresden Staatskapelle in the 1930s and now available on Profil. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bruckner-Sym...955417&sr=1-18
                          I am indeed, and can also confirm the Profil set's transfers are very well made.

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11822

                            I have just dug out the 1951 Stuttgart Furtwangler Bruckner - a wonderful experience . He really was in a league of his own in Bruckner .

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                            • Petrushka
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12366

                              Originally posted by Barbirollians
                              I have just dug out the 1951 Stuttgart Furtwangler Bruckner - a wonderful experience . He really was in a league of his own in Bruckner .
                              I have the recording of a performance given a day or two later (Oct 29 1951) in the Deutsches Museum in Munich (well worth a visit, incidentally). The sound is pretty ropey and Furtwängler makes a cut as well as an unnecessary cymbal clash in the finale but - and this is the thing - with all these liabilities it still shines through as being something very special.
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • Barbirollians
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11822

                                I had not listened to the Columbia SO/Walter for too long - it is a truly great record . Terrific cumulative power and impact .

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