Our Summer BAL No 52 : Mahler Das lied von Der Erde

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    Our Summer BAL No 52 : Mahler Das lied von Der Erde

    No sign of this being done recently . Ferrier/Patzak and Walter unsurpassed .
  • AmpH
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    • Feb 2012
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    #2
    Janet Baker / Waldemar Kmentt / BRSO / Rafael Kubelik ( audite )

    Kubelik's live Mahler symphony recordings on audite are long time favourites of mine and this live recording from 1970 makes a wonderful addition to that series - don't think I have ever heard Janet Baker sound better.

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
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      #3
      Originally posted by AmpH View Post
      Janet Baker / Waldemar Kmentt / BRSO / Rafael Kubelik ( audite )

      Kubelik's live Mahler symphony recordings on audite are long time favourites of mine and this live recording from 1970 makes a wonderful addition to that series - don't think I have ever heard Janet Baker sound better.
      Haven't heard the Audie Das Lied--and it sounds tempting--but I have recently bought 1&9 from Audite and they easily trump Kubelik's earlier cycle.
      I am still partial to Klemperer and the Haitink Phillips recording. Most recently I heard the earlier mono Walter from the Sony Walter box. Not sure how I feel about that one yet.

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        I have Haitink and Abbado, and I must look up the version I have in the old EMI boxset of his music, unless anyone can save me the trouble!!
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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          • Sep 2011
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          #5
          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          I have ... Abbado
          ??? I don't think he ever recorded it, Bbm.

          and I must look up the version I have in the old EMI boxset of his music, unless anyone can save me the trouble!!
          Klemperer and chums.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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            • Sep 2011
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            #6
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Ferrier/Patzak and Walter unsurpassed .
            My own "if you could take just one recording to the desert island" nomination - without any hesitation. (I'd play it once a year - it would resonate throughout the intervening time.)

            The only recording that comes close in my affections (as opposed to my admiration - loads of them, not least Lennie with FiDi) is Alfreda Hodgson, Jon Mitchinson, the BBCNorthern and Horenstein. A Live recording from 1972, demonstrating that Mahler's score doesn't need tampering with - just a great singer and conductor doing their job properly!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Richard Barrett
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              • Jan 2016
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              #7
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              ??? I don't think he ever recorded it, Bbm.
              There is a video with Kaufmann, von Otter and the Berlin Phil, recorded in 2011. Which I would very much like to see.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                • Sep 2011
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                #8
                Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                There is a video with Kaufmann, von Otter and the Berlin Phil, recorded in 2011. Which I would very much like to see.
                Me, too. A couple of tantalizing "tasters" on youTube - with the bonus of the First Movement of the Tenth. The concert doesn't seem to be easily available ...
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • makropulos
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  Me, too. A couple of tantalizing "tasters" on youTube - with the bonus of the First Movement of the Tenth. The concert doesn't seem to be easily available ...
                  Ah. I have it on audio (sensible file size) and video (huge file size so can't transfer that). If you want to message me privately...

                  On record, Klemperer and Walter (Ferrier/Patzak) are the ones I listen to most often.

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                  • BBMmk2
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    ??? I don't think he ever recorded it, Bbm.


                    Klemperer and chums.
                    As ever, thanks Ferney! In the DG Mahler Complete Edition, they have Giulini's. I haven't heard this one in a while?
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • HighlandDougie
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by makropulos View Post
                      Ah. I have it on audio (sensible file size) and video (huge file size so can't transfer that). If you want to message me privately...

                      On record, Klemperer and Walter (Ferrier/Patzak) are the ones I listen to most often.
                      Audio file also provided to me - beyond most kindly! - by a fellow forumisto. It's the performance I listen to it most often. Possibly not to everyone's liking in "Der Abschied" but A S v O gets to the very heart of the song, just like Ferrier - and Nan Merriman. Alice Coote (whom I heard in Edinburgh earlier this month) came close. The Kubelik/Baker combo, as recommended by AmpH, is also wonderful but then so is Alfreda Hodgson with Horenstein. A work I never ever tire of.

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                      • CallMePaul
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                        • Jan 2014
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                        #12
                        Has anyone heard the Carlos Kleiber recording? I've seen it in my local record shop and on Presto website recently.

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          The Abbado is excellent

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                          • Petrushka
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            I have more versions of Das Lied than the cat had kittens but despite that I play it sparingly, not wanting it to suffer from over-exposure. Needless to say, my shelves are dominated by those recordings featuring Janet Baker and my 'go to' recording is that with James King and Haitink and the Concertgebouw. I have all recordings so far mentioned but amongst those not yet named are a really good live 1960 recording from Bruno Walter and the NYPO on the Archipel label. This features those two Das Lied stalwarts, Maureen Forrester and Richard Lewis and the NYPO play like angels for Walter. Good sound considering its age.

                            MF & RL also take part in another favourite recording, this time with Fritz Reiner conducting the Chicago SO in wonderful RCA Living Stereo sound. If you don't know it try and find a copy

                            Another live recording comes from Giulini and the VPO on Orfeo with Araiza and, under-rated in this work, Brigitte Fassbaender. I don't have the studio account with the same soloists (with the BPO) but this Orfeo set, coupled with the Mozart 40 from the same concert, is fine.

                            I have a live Szell from 1967 with MF & RL again given by the Cleveland Orchestra but I wish I could get my hands on a live account from them that R3 broadcast of a Feb 5 1970 concert given in Cleveland's Severance Hall. My cassette went long ago.

                            Karajan's BPO recording is marked by incredibly beautiful playing but also a sense of other-worldliness in the recorded sound that is perfectly apt. Kollo and Ludwig are the ever dependable soloists as they are for Bernstein and the Israel PO (also on DVD). Kollo also features in Solti and the Chicago SO recording. He is much my favourite tenor of modern recordings as he is right for all three songs. Solti recorded it again in a rare outing with the Concertgebouw.

                            Boulez. and the VPO come across as somewhat uninvolving for my taste but I've not heard that one for many years and might be completely wrong.
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • teamsaint
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                              Has anyone heard the Carlos Kleiber recording? I've seen it in my local record shop and on Presto website recently.
                              It is on spotify ,CMP.
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