Our Summer BAL 87: JS Bach English suites (harpsichord versions)

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  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
    • 11058

    Our Summer BAL 87: JS Bach English suites (harpsichord versions)

    To complement/supplement the BaL on piano versions of the suites (28.9.24), MickyD has suggested considering the harpsichord versions.

    Alessanda Artifoni
    Bob van Asperen
    Carol Cerasi

    Alan Curtis
    Huguette Dreyfus
    Pascal Dubreuil
    Richard Egarr (using a 1991 harpsichord, after a 1638 model, with Egarr’s own temperament)
    Lorenzo Ghielmi
    Ketil Hausgand (double-manual harpsichord)
    Ralph Kirkpatrick
    Gustav Leonhardt (R1973/P1974: Seon/Sony, though LPs originally Philips!)
    Gustav Leonhardt
    ​ (1984: Erato/EMI, now Warner)
    Elina Mustonen
    Anthony Newman
    Marie Nishiyama
    Blandine Rannou
    Christophe Rousset
    Zuzana Ruzickova
    Masaaki Suzuki
    Colin Tilney
    Helmut Walcha
    Peter Watchorn
    Paolo Zanzu


    Further details are available in the Presto listing:

    Last edited by Pulcinella; 08-09-24, 12:36. Reason: Additions made.
  • MickyD
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    • Nov 2010
    • 4807

    #2
    Great work! Such a shame the Kenneth Gilbert is out of the catalogue. I'm more than happy with the Egarr, though, so beautifully recorded.

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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
      • 11058

      #3
      Originally posted by MickyD View Post
      Great work! Such a shame the Kenneth Gilbert is out of the catalogue. I'm more than happy with the Egarr, though, so beautifully recorded.
      Are you sure he recorded them?
      This 10CD box suggests it's all his JSB, but maybe it was for a different label?

      JS Bach: Keyboard Works. DG Archiv: 4794237. Buy download online. Trevor Pinnock, Kenneth Gilbert (harpsichords), Lars Ulrik Mortensen (harpsichords), Nicholas Kraemer (harpsichords) The English Concert (on authentic instruments)

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12927

        #4
        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

        Are you sure he recorded them?
        This 10CD box suggests it's all his JSB, but maybe it was for a different label?

        https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...keyboard-works
        ... yes he did : a two LP set, subsequently on CDs (nla)-



        and then in his more complete set (also nla) which I have -






        .

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        • MickyD
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          • Nov 2010
          • 4807

          #5
          Oh lucky you, Vints! It's been a long time since I've heard those, do they still hold up well? I have his set of the Partitas, which I love.

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          • Mandryka
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            • Feb 2021
            • 1560

            #6
            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
            To complement/supplement the BaL on piano versions of the suites (28.9.24), MickyD has suggested considering the harpsichord versions.

            Alessanda Artifoni
            Bob van Asperen
            Carol Cerasi
            Pascal Dubreuil
            Richard Egarr (using a 1991 harpsichord, after a 1638 model, with Egarr’s own temperament)
            Lorenzo Ghielmi
            Ketil Hausgand (double-manual harpsichord)
            Ralph Kirkpatrick
            Gustav Leonhardt
            Elina Mustonen
            Anthony Newman
            Marie Nishiyama
            Blandine Rannou
            Christophe Rousset
            Zuzana Ruzickova
            Masaaki Suzuki
            Colin Tilney
            Helmut Walcha
            Peter Watchorn
            Paolo Zanzu


            Further details are available in the Presto listing:

            https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...806-811/browse
            Leonhardt made two recordings, first for Seon and then for EMI. They're different, very different I'd say.

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            • vinteuil
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12927

              #7
              .
              ... also Alan Curtis (in the old '2000' Big Bach Box) and Huguette Dreyfus (in the newer '333' Bigger Bach Box)

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              • Beresford
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                • Apr 2012
                • 557

                #8
                I like the sound of Dubreuil in Bach. He shapes each little figure so well, and "produces a delicate and crisply elegant sound with richly rounded, plum-like trills." (Gramophone). Maybe too elegant at times.

                I love the shimmering sound of a harpsichord, especially a big French harpsichord, in music of it's time. Have you ever tried to get a shimmer out of a piano? Whenever my wife hears Bach keyboard music on piano, and it gets to a trill, she shouts out "Don't they realize it was written for a harpsichord!" Same for me when I hear the gamba sonatas played on a cello.

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                • oliver sudden
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                  • Feb 2024
                  • 643

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Beresford View Post
                  I love the shimmering sound of a harpsichord, especially a big French harpsichord, in music of it's time.
                  There’s also the little matter of tuning, which can make the expressive power of modulations an extremely personal thing—thinking of Blandine Verlet playing Louis Couperin or especially Froberger…

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11058

                    #10
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    .
                    ... also Alan Curtis (in the old '2000' Big Bach Box) and Huguette Dreyfus (in the newer '333' Bigger Bach Box)
                    Thanks: added to listing.

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                    • Pulcinella
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 11058

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mandryka View Post

                      Leonhardt made two recordings, first for Seon and then for EMI. They're different, very different I'd say.
                      Original listing expanded: thanks.

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                      • MickyD
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 4807

                        #12
                        It's a great shame that Christopher Hogwood never recorded these, his set of the French suites is very enjoyable indeed to my ears.

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                        • AuntDaisy
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                          • Jun 2018
                          • 1751

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                          It's a great shame that Christopher Hogwood never recorded these, his set of the French suites is very enjoyable indeed to my ears.

                          ... or Trevor Pinnock (thanks vinteuil)

                          Enjoying the Hogwood French suites now, thanks for the prompt MickyD.

                          Sadly, 2 of the 3 Amazon reviews of the Double Decca releases of the French suites are very uncomplimentary. If they really wanted a Gould piano version why moan?!

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                          • MickyD
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4807

                            #14
                            Indeed, makes you wonder what makes people post such things. I'm glad you are in agreement with me...if I remember correctly, Hogwood plays on a fine-sounding historical French instrument.

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                            • MickyD
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 4807

                              #15
                              No less than two important instruments in fact....a 1749 Goujon and a 1646 Ruckers!

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