Our Summer BAL 42: Manfred Symphony

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  • teamsaint
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    • Nov 2010
    • 25231

    Our Summer BAL 42: Manfred Symphony

    can I suggest the Manfred Symphony ?
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  • verismissimo
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2957

    #2
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    can I suggest the Manfred Symphony ?
    Can't see that it's been done in recent times. Go for it, ts!

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8836

      #3
      Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
      Can't see that it's been done in recent times. Go for it, ts!
      Available versions can be a cut and paste job from Apple Music

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        can I suggest the Manfred Symphony ?
        It seems you have done.

        Haitink for structural control, Muti for passion and noise, and Ondrej Lenard (on NAXOS) for a superb bargain - a really good performance and recording, I think.

        I also have the Pletnev - doesn't really stir the beans for me.
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        • visualnickmos
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3614

          #5
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          It seems you have done.

          Haitink for structural control, Muti for passion and noise, and Ondrej Lenard (on NAXOS) for a superb bargain - a really good performance and recording, I think.

          I also have the Pletnev - doesn't really stir the beans for me.
          This is a real stunner! One of the best bargains I've ever found... Another one I love is Maazel's recording.

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          • Petrushka
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12329

            #6
            Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
            This is a real stunner! One of the best bargains I've ever found... Another one I love is Maazel's recording.
            Oh dear, surveying my shelves I do seem to have rather a lot of Manfreds. Jansons, Chailly, Haitink, Muti, Previn, Pletnev, Petrenko (Vassily), Jurowski and Maazel.

            Muti and Previn are both superb as are Maazel and Jurowski. All four are winners in my view but love the earth-shaking timpani in the Muti. Perversely, probably the best Manfreds I've heard were live concerts on R3 and both with Ashkenazy and the Philharmonia.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Alison
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6474

              #7
              I've always had a soft spot for LPO/Rostropovich, slow, poised and detailed. A thrilling end to (i) in particular.

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12329

                #8
                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                I've always had a soft spot for LPO/Rostropovich, slow, poised and detailed. A thrilling end to (i) in particular.
                I had that on cassette long, long ago but for some reason never got it on LP or CD.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • verismissimo
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2957

                  #9
                  Our Summer BAL 42: Manfred Symphony

                  Please could one of our revered leaders transfer the posts (from No 6 on the Our Summer BALs 2015 thread) relating to the Manfred to here. Thanks.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20575

                    #10
                    Will do so asap, as soon as I get home. It's a bit tricky trying to do this particular operation on a phone.

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #11
                      I have Jansons, Nilsons and Litton. Nilsons does it for me here.
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                      I go where music was born

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22205

                        #12
                        I can't guarantee that this is the complete catalogue or that they are all still available but this might be a useful starter list:

                        USO Abravanel
                        LSO Ahronovitch
                        PO Ashkenazy
                        CAO Chailly
                        LSO Goossens
                        CAO Haitink
                        OPO Jansons
                        LPO Jurowski
                        GurnewitzO Kitajenko
                        PO Kletzki
                        RPO Koizumi
                        CSRSO Lenard
                        IndianapolisSO Leppard
                        BoSO Litton
                        VPO Maazel
                        LSO Markevitch
                        LGO Masur
                        PO Muti
                        CBSO Nelsons
                        PhO Ormandy
                        RLPO Petrenko
                        RNO Pletnev
                        LSO Previn
                        LPO Rostropovich
                        USSRRTVO Rozhdestvensky
                        BudPO Saccani
                        FNRO Silvestri
                        BoSO Silvestri
                        LSO Simonov
                        BPO Svetlanov
                        USSRSO Svetlanov
                        LAPO Tilson-Thomas
                        NBCSO Toscanini
                        Last edited by cloughie; 14-07-15, 12:45.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20575

                          #13
                          Posts now merged.

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                          • verismissimo
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2957

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            Posts now merged.
                            Many thanks, Alpie. And also thanks to cloughie for a fab list.

                            This is a work I've always struggled with - and I'm not sure why. I'll try again - with LPO/Jurowski...

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                            • Hornspieler
                              Late Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1847

                              #15
                              My first "encounter" with Manfred was in 1956 with Sir Thomas Beecham and the RPO.
                              He made several cuts in the last movement, which in hindsight I can quite agree with - as did the orchestra with a shuffling of feet in the first rehearsal.

                              For me, the benchmark is defined by the woodwind playing in the scherzo and that quartet of Gerald Jackson, Terry MacDonagh, Jack Brymer and Gwydion Brooke was quite superb.

                              Never recorded, as far as I am aware.

                              HS

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