BaL 8.03.14 - Bernstein: West Side Story

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  • Petrushka
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12308

    #16
    I'd agree that this is the best musical ever and one that really hits the spot in the theatre.

    My own favourite recording doesn't seem to be listed: John Owen Edwards conducting the National Symphony Orchestra and the original cast of the Leicester Haymarket Theatre production plus Sally Burgess. It's available on TER Classics CDTER1197. http://www.amazon.co.uk/West-Side-St...+side+story+cd

    Such a shame that Lennie never recorded this properly. Dame Kiwi and Jose are hopelessly miscast and ruin it for me but Tatiana Troyanos is excellent as is Kurt Ollman.
    Last edited by Petrushka; 01-03-14, 14:19.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Barbirollians
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11751

      #17
      I don't see it as classical music marvellous work as it is . It will be Phantom of the Opera next .

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      • waldo
        Full Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 449

        #18
        Are we sure this BAL isn't scheduled for 1st April?

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26572

          #19
          Originally posted by waldo View Post
          Are we sure this BAL isn't scheduled for 1st April?
          Coincidence: the same as the release date for this album, to be sampled tomorrow

          Fantasy in Blue – Purcell and Gershwin
          CROFT: Ground
          GERSHWIN: Summertime (from Porgy and Bess); Bess, you is my woman now (from Porgy and Bess); etc
          PURCELL: What power art thou? (from King Arthur, Z628); Hornpipe; Fantazia 5 in B flat major, Z. 736; etc
          Jay Bernfeld (viola da gamba), Rinat Shaham (mezzo soprano), Fuoco e cenere
          ATMA ACD22253 (CD)
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • EdgeleyRob
            Guest
            • Nov 2010
            • 12180

            #20
            Pass.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #21
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              My own favourite recording doesn't seem to be listed: John Owen Edwards conducting the National Symphony Orchestra and the original cast of the Leicester Haymarket Theatre production plus Sally Burgess. It's available on TER Classics CDTER1197. http://www.amazon.co.uk/West-Side-St...+side+story+cd
              - that's the one I mistakenly referred to as issued by "Stage & Screen" (wasn't that a R3 programme of onceago?)
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • aeolium
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3992

                #22
                I was interested to see that Max Goberman was the conductor in the original Broadway production. I have a couple of his recordings of Haydn symphonies with the Vienna State Opera Orchestra and very good some of them are (he was due to record all of them IIRC but the project was cut short by his early death).

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  I don't see it as classical music marvellous work as it is . It will be Phantom of the Opera next .
                  Apart from the "Classical or not" status (where is Rhapsody in Blue on that shape-shifting map?) the suggested similarity with Lord Lloyd Banker's score is grotesquely unfair. WSS is very clearly by a composer who could also produce the Jeremiah Symphony, The Age of Anxiety, the Serenade for Violin and Orchestra after Plato's "Symposium" - the Harvard and Curtis graduand whose doctoral thesis was on the potential of the American Musical Theatre as a medium for serious Musical activity - and the man who would go on to write and present the Young People's Concerts and the Norton Lectures.

                  WSS owes as much to the Western Classical traditions as it does to Broadway: the three-note motif that represents the Sharks in the Prelude, permutated to become that of "Ma-ri-a" (with octave displacement first presented in Something's Coming at the words "Who knows?"), permutated even further to become the subject of the "fugue" in Cool. The way Something's Coming "ends" with a dominant minor ninth chord on D (but in fourth inversion) - defying the tonality of D major and pulling it towards G major, a key which is only reached at the Cha-Cha during the Dance at the Gym - the moment when Tony first sees Maria and the "something good" that he knew was "coming" has "arrived" (the Cha-cha itself, of course, using a version of the melody of Maria, a number which we haven't yet). This is use of Music(al) thinking that only someone steeped in the Music of Bach and Brahms and Species Counterpoint could pull off so successfully.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • LeMartinPecheur
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                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4717

                    #24
                    Got the orig soundtrack disc. Will listen with interest and - I hope; not ashamed to it - enjoyment, but expect the wallet to stay in pocket: phew!
                    I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #25
                      In some respects I have a love hate relationship with this. Maybe because I've played it a lot times in a selection, for brass band. I much prefer Bernstein's other output, like his symphonies, for instance. I especially like No.2, "The Age of Anxiety".
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25225

                        #26
                        like others, can't really see the point in this. You could pick up most of the available decent recordings for next to no money, and make your ow decision in a long evenings listening.

                        I really like the original soundtrack,but there do seem to be so many better works as candidates
                        for BaL
                        Dare I say it, this might have been a better candidate for Discovering Music, with Lennie's skills and techniques highlighted., as mentioned by Ferney.But............
                        Just a thought.

                        Due to the inevitable over familiarity of WSS, I tend to listen to On the Town more often.

                        Both absolute class in any case.
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • gurnemanz
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7405

                          #27
                          I bought Bernstein's own version but have not actually listened to it very much. The film of the recording session with Lennie effing and blinding and was entertaining and also cringe-making. It is doubtless one of the top musicals but we have only recently actually seen it performed live (Sadler's Wells). I was struck forcefully by the demands placed on the performers to be able to dance and sing and tend to agree with doversoul's comment above: "To most of us, if not all of us, West Side Story is a musical with Jerome Robbins’s choreograph. Without the memory of the dance, I am not sure if the entire work as one piece can stand up to serious listening."

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20572

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            I don't see it as classical music marvellous work as it is . It will be Phantom of the Opera next .
                            I think it's fine as a one-off, but the way Radio 3 has been moving in recent years, we might yet be served with a regular supply of lesser musicals.

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                            • Black Swan

                              #29
                              Yes, I agree with EA. I am listening to CD Review now. I have to say the first 2 discs didn't impress me and obviously not Andrew either. It makes one wonder why they were selected for CD Review.

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25225

                                #30
                                A bit off topic, but as a recommendation for those who, like me, dont tend to do musicals, and might not have seen it,the movie of Chicago with Richard Gere is a great evenings entertainment.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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