BaL 28.12.13 - Haydn's The Creation

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    BaL 28.12.13 - Haydn's The Creation

    9.30am Building a Library
    Iain Burnside with a personal recommendation from recordings of Haydn's oratorio The Creation

    Available versions:-


    Pecs Chamber Choir Hungary, Chamber Choir of the Berlin Academy of Arts, Shin-yu Kai Choir Japan, World SO, Mushe Atzmon
    Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra and Chorus, Leonard Bernstein (CD & DVD)
    New York PO and Chorus, Leonard Bernstein
    Salzburg Bach Choir, Mozarteum Orchester Salzburg, Ivor Bolton
    Philharmonia Orchestra & Chorus, Rafael Fruhbeck de Burgos
    Les Arts Florissants, William Christie
    LSO & Chorus, Sir Colin Davis
    Brighton Festival Chorus, RPO, Antal Dorati
    Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra, Vienna Chamber Choir, Adam Fischer
    Der Chor der St. Hedwigs-Katherdrale Berlin, Berlin SO, Karl Forster
    Monteverdi Choir, English Baroque Soloists, Sir John Eliot Gardiner
    Orchester der Ludwigsburger, Suddeitsches Madrigalchor, Wolfgang Gonnenwein
    Zurcher Sangerknaben, Zurcher Kammerorchester, Howard Griffiths
    Saarbrucken Radio SO, Neubeuern Choral Society, Enocj zu Guttenberg
    Arnold Schoenberg Chor, Concentus Musicus Wien, Niklaus Harnoncourt
    Arnold Schoenberg Chor, Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Niklaus Harnoncourt
    Balthasar Neumann Chor & Ensemble, Thomas Hengelbrock
    Collegium Musicum 90, Richard Hickox
    Choir of New College Oxford, Oxford Philomusica, Edward Higginbottom
    Academy of Ancient Music, Christopher Hogwood (DVD) - in English
    Choir of New College Oxford, AAM, Christopher Hogwood
    RIA Chamber Choir, Freiburger Barockorchester, Rene Jacobs
    Vienna Volksoper, Jasha Horenstein
    Eugene Jochum
    Berlin PO, Vienna Singverein, Herbert von Karajan
    Vienna PO, Vienna Singverein, Herbert von Karajan
    Cologne Radio Orchestra, Choir Cologne, Joseph Keiberth
    Rundfunk Berlin, Helmuth Koch
    BRSO & Chorus, Rafael Kubelik
    Rome Della RAI, Rafael Kubelik
    Arnold Schoenberg Chor, Collegium Aureum, Gustav Kuhn
    La Petite Bande, Collegium Vocale Gent, Sigiswald Kuijken
    Stockholm Radio Chorus,Stockholm Chamber Choir, BPO, James Levine
    Gabrieli Consort & Players, Chetham's Chamber Choir, Paul McCreesh (in English)
    St Hedwig's Choir, BPO, Igor Markevitch (download)
    Cappella Colonienssi, Weiner Akademie, Sir Neville Marriner
    Weiner Sangerknaben, Peter Marschik (CD & DVD)
    Choeur de l'Orchester de Paris, Israel PO, Zubin Mehta
    Vienna State Opera Chorus, VPO, Karl Munchinger
    VPO, Vienna State Opera Chorus, Riccardo Muti
    Netherlands Radio Chamber Philharmonic & Radio Chamber Choir, John Nelson (DVD)
    RIAS Chamber Choir, COE, Sir Roger Norrington
    Boston Baroque, Martin Pearlman
    CBSO & Chorus, Sir Simon Rattle (in English)
    St Paul's Chamber Orchestra, Minnesota Chorale, John Revzen (download)
    Stuttgart Gachinger Kantorei, Stuttgart Bach Collegium, Helmuth Rilling
    Schottisches Kammerorchester, Festivalchor Luzern, Peter Schreier (DVD)
    Atlanta SO & Chorus, Robert Shaw
    Vokal Ensemble Koln, Capella Augustina, Andrea Spering
    BRSO & Chorus, Sir Georg Solti
    LPO and Choir, Klaus Tennstedt
    Gurzenich Orchestra & Choir of Cologne, Gunter Wand
    Tolzer Knabenchor, Tafelmusic, Bruno Weil
    Choir of King's College Cambridge, ASMF, Sir David Willcocks
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 28-12-13, 14:36.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    #2
    To set the ball rolling, my first recording of this work was a 21st birthday present from my music student friends: the CBS/NYPO/Bernstein. It was very kind of them, but it was issued at a ridiculously high dynamic level, resulting in compression. Furthermore there was serious pre-echo at the key moment "and there was light". For a number of years I thought perhaps American musicians were crass and insensitive, but it was only the engineers who were this. A few years later, I bought the Decca/VPO Munchinger, which had received rave reviews, and deservedly so, and so tastefully recorded, and still a favourite version, though now out of fashion with the nouveau establishment.

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #3
      I have McCreesh, JEG and Rattle, plus Dorati.
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • aeolium
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3992

        #4
        Thanks for the list, EA. You could add a version I first bought on CFP with the Philharmonia and Rafael Fruhbeck de Burgos for which I still have some affection. I also like the Dorati and Bernstein's recording with the Bavarians. I think it very likely Burnside will go for a more historically informed performance though.

        Another easy job for the reviewer

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20572

          #5
          Originally posted by aeolium View Post
          Thanks for the list, EA. You could add a version I first bought on CFP with the Philharmonia and Rafael Fruhbeck de Burgos for which I still have some affection.
          It's available from Arkiv Music, so I've added this one.
          I think it very likely Burnside will go for a more historically informed performance though.
          You are probably right, but I hope he doesn't do a Roy Goodman and not consider anything else.

          On reflection, he isn't particularly known as a HIPPster.

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          • visualnickmos
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3614

            #6
            I thought we were going to get Dvorak's 6th?

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            • verismissimo
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              • Nov 2010
              • 2957

              #7
              Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
              I thought we were going to get Dvorak's 6th?
              This one's on the 28th.

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              • Rolmill
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 636

                #8
                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                This one's on the 28th.
                Perhaps a kindly host could amend the thread title accordingly?

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                • LeMartinPecheur
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4717

                  #9
                  I can field one a wee bit off the beaten track and not on EA's listing - a mono DGG Markevich.

                  Not sure whether it's been officially issued on CD in the UK: my discs look slightly unofficial, with Italian duty(?) stickers on them. Bought from something like a Harlequin Records bargain bin IIRC. The star of the soloists is Irmgard Seefried, with Richard Holm and Kim Borg.

                  Time I bought a better one in this here new-fangled 'stereo'?
                  I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                  • Flosshilde
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    #10
                    The first I heard was the Rafael Fruhbeck de Burgos, borrowed from the public library, an awful lot of years ago. Although it's a work I love I never bought a recording because, as far as I can remember, none of the others I could find had the repeat in part 3 (not sure why I didn't buy that one - perhaps because it was no longer available?). I've now got a recording issued with the BBCMM in Dec 2001 & Jan 2002, with Harry Christophers & the BBC Phil, Nancy Argenta, William Kendall & Michael George. Presumably this one won't be discussed . Perhaps it's time I bought a more HIPP performance.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20572

                      #11
                      Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                      This one's on the 28th.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20572

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                        I can field one a wee bit off the beaten track and not on EA's listing - a mono DGG Markevich.
                        This does appear to be available as a download. Duly added.

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                        • verismissimo
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2957

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          Thanks for amending, Alpie.
                          The Jochum in your list is presumably with Bavarian Radio Chorus and Orchestra (1966). I have it on LP and will revisit. Also have the Bernstein with the same forces (1986). So nothing even faintly HIP, a situation that I'll hopefully be able to deal with post-BAL.
                          BTW both Jochum and Bernstein are wonderful with Haydn.

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                          • MickyD
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4810

                            #14
                            I have Hogwood (English version) and Jacobs and Weil (German). Not sure which I prefer...the Bruno Weil one was a recent acquisition and l like it very much.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #15
                              Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                              Thanks for the list, EA. You could add a version I first bought on CFP with the Philharmonia and Rafael Fruhbeck de Burgos for which I still have some affection.
                              - the explosion into sunlight isn't done better anywhere else.

                              Not even the superb Karajan/BPO which has the incomparable Gundula Janowitz - and is cut!! - but still my favourite "Big Band" version.

                              I also have the Hogwood, but would like a German-language HIP performance: Jacobs looks very tempting, but I'm grateful to MickyD for mentioning the Bruno Weil - I love his recordings of the Haydn Masses, and it would be appropriate to have Karajan next to one of his apprentices on the shelves.

                              Useful background reading to the work (and The Seasons) here:

                              The composion and description of Joseph Haydn's late oratorios, Die Schöpfung (The Creation) and Die Jahreszeiten (The Seasons)


                              ... Brian Robins may be a familiar name to EMS regulars - he edited the John Marsh Journals which featured recently.
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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