BaL 21.12.13 - Dvorak Symphony no. 6

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  • makropulos
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1676

    #31
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Thank you. As ever, your expertise is invaluable.
    Well, Alpie, your thoroughness in preparing these lists every week is even more invaluable (if it's possible to be such a thing :) )

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    • visualnickmos
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3614

      #32
      A great listing Alpen (as ever)

      I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are one or two dark horses in that lot! It'll be an interesting BaL for sure.

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      • Karafan
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 786

        #33
        Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
        Couldn't this be a Kubelik double-whammy after this week's Parsifal??

        (I'd be quite happy with this as I have his DG performance, on LP an​d CD...)
        All well and good, LMP, unless they opt for his live one on Orfeo! (Which is a spirited affair, IIRC).

        In modern sound Chung and his Viennese forces are very affecting....
        "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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        • verismissimo
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 2957

          #34
          Originally posted by muzzer View Post
          Marvellous. I understand the received wisdom is Kertesz...
          Kertesz a bit hard-driven for my taste.

          Anyone for Mackerras?

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          • aeolium
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3992

            #35
            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
            Kertesz a bit hard-driven for my taste.
            Not for mine. I think this was one of the finest of his Dvorak recordings, with the LSO in great form - and wonderful Decca SXL sound (at least as I first heard it on LP).

            I'd be interested in hearing Rowicki and also BRSO/Kubelik which for some reason I haven't encountered.

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            • akiralx
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              • Oct 2011
              • 429

              #36
              Originally posted by aeolium View Post

              I'd be interested in hearing Rowicki and also BRSO/Kubelik which for some reason I haven't encountered.
              Just this week I listened to Kubelik's two recordings on consecutive days and had a preference for the earlier DG, especially the slow movement. It is hardly inferior in sound (was it recorded in the Jesus-Christus Kirche?).

              Both are excellent however - the BRSO comes c/w Janacek's Sinfonietta. The DG can be had in a twofer of syms 6-9.

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              • LeMartinPecheur
                Full Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 4717

                #37
                Originally posted by akiralx View Post
                Just this week I listened to Kubelik's two recordings on consecutive days and had a preference for the earlier DG, especially the slow movement. It is hardly inferior in sound (was it recorded in the Jesus-Christus Kirche?).
                The DG 6-9 twofer says Yes, for all the recordings.
                I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                • aeolium
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3992

                  #38
                  I thought this was an enjoyable BaL, with extracts from quite a few of the many recordings available. Alsop's recording sounded very good, as did Belohlavek's with the Czech PO. I also enjoyed Mackerras and Colin Davis and the tantalising single extract from BPO/Kubelik (I couldn't hear what the reviewer was complaining about). But I agree with him about the Kertesz, a quite outstanding recording which I have never heard bettered.

                  The sole extract from the Rowicki was a real disappointment - what a pedestrian opening, followed by an abrupt acceleration!

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #39
                    I see people's point about the Kertesz but as the reviewer said, the sound is a bit dated now and I thought Mackerras and CD were not too bad subs?
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • amateur51

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                      I see people's point about the Kertesz but as the reviewer said, the sound is a bit dated now and I thought Mackerras and CD were not too bad subs?
                      A bit like my lug'oles then - sounds fine to me

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                      • LeMartinPecheur
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4717

                        #41
                        This BaL inspired me to carry out a census of my Dvorak symph discs. Up popped the Talich on Naxos which I'd forgotten, and a BBC MM BBCSO/ Belohlavek to go with the Kubelik (x2) mentioned above. But should I get that Kertesz?? (His wonderful 8th was the first Dvorak symph in my LP collection - I never rushed to get the New World - but for some reason I've never bought any more of his cycle.)

                        Well, if it's coupled with 4 and 5 I'm still a bit light on those so I think I can justify it

                        Toughest question after the census is, Will the completist trainspotter in me cope without the 2nd? Having been horribly disappointed with the 1st and only slightly more impressed with the 3rd, that's a real toughie

                        PS The Kertesz 4/5/6 twofer duly ordered but managed to steer clear of the 1/2/3 one.
                        Last edited by LeMartinPecheur; 21-12-13, 14:39.
                        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #42
                          That BBC MM cd is rather good. I think has a Novak piece with it?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #43
                            Managed to grab a "Used - Like New" set of all 9 (Kertesz) at £14.21 including p&p. That'll do nicely.

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                            • Roehre

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              That BBC MM cd is rather good. I think has a Novak piece with it?
                              That's the one indeed.

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                              • LeMartinPecheur
                                Full Member
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4717

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                That BBC MM cd is rather good. I think has a Novak piece with it?
                                Eternal Longing.

                                (Nothing personal you understand, bbm...)
                                I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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