BaL 7.12.13 - Bach: Cantata BWV 21

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    BaL 7.12.13 - Bach: Cantata BWV 21

    9.30am Building a Library
    Nicholas Anderson with a personal recommendation from recordings of Bach's Cantata No 21, Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis

    Available versions:-


    Ensemble Vanitas, Coro della Radio Svizzera, Diego Fasolis
    Monteverdi Choir, English Baroque Soloists, John Eliot Gardiner
    Niklaus Harnoncourt
    La Chapelle Royale, Phillippe Herreweghe
    Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir, Ton Koopman
    La Petite Bande, Sigiswald Kujiken
    Holland Boys’ Choir & Netherlands Bach Collegium, Pieter Jan Leusink
    Purcell Quartet & soloists
    Munich Bach Choir & Orchestra, Karl Richter
    Bach-Colegium Stuttgart, Helmut Rilling
    RIAS Chamber Orchestra & Choir, Karl Ristenpart
    Vienna Chamber Choie, Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Jonathan Steinberg
    Bach Collegium Japan, Masaaki Suzuki
    Heinrich Schutz Choir, Heilbronn & Pforzheimer Kammerorchester, Fritz Werner
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 27-02-15, 12:34.
  • verismissimo
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2957

    #2
    Absolutely delighted to see this as next Saturday's BAL. Great cantata and manageable number of runners.

    I have Harnoncourt from 1973 and Leusink from the noughties. To be reviewed.

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    • MickyD
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 4748

      #3
      I'm also delighted to see that Nicholas Anderson is to be the reviewer - a passionate and hugely knowledgeable authority on baroque music.

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        #4
        I have Rilling, Richter and now JEG. I must listen to all three before next week's broadcast.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #5
          Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
          Absolutely delighted to see this as next Saturday's BAL. Great cantata and manageable number of runners.


          I have Harnoncourt from 1973 and Leusink from the noughties. To be reviewed.
          Snap! Both very good, indeed.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • VodkaDilc

            #6
            Originally posted by MickyD View Post
            I'm also delighted to see that Nicholas Anderson is to be the reviewer - a passionate and hugely knowledgeable authority on baroque music.
            Exactly my reaction, Micky.

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7382

              #7
              Herreweghe, Harnoncourt, Leusink. I can't hear the mighty thrice-sung "Ich!" without thinking of the effect that I was told it had on citizens in Bach's Leipzig during the DDR phase of their history, when all propaganda emphasis was on the collective "Wir" and all individualism was suppressed. The East German dissident, Wolf Biermann, has written about this canata and specifically the profound effect which the first 13 words had on him ... an atheist:

              Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis in meinem Herzen; aber deine Tröstungen erquicken meine Seele.
              (I had much affliction in my heart, but your consolations restore my soul.)

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              • verismissimo
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 2957

                #8
                [QUOTE=gurnemanz;355818]Herreweghe, Harnoncourt, Leusink. I can't hear the mighty thrice-sung "Ich!" without thinking of the effect that I was told it had on citizens in Bach's Leipzig during the DDR phase of their history, when all propaganda emphasis was on the collective "Wir" and all individualism was suppressed. The East German dissident, Wolf Biermann, has written about this canata and specifically the profound effect which the first 13 words had on him ... an atheist:

                Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis in meinem Herzen; aber deine Tröstungen erquicken meine Seele.
                (I had much affliction in my heart, but your consolations restore my soul.)[/QUOTE

                Wonderful post, thanks, gurnemanz.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  #9
                  Having now listened to the JEG, it's an energetic performance, but I do wonder about the recorded sound. The tenor sounds as though he was much too close to the microphone, with unpleasant transients.

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                  • MickyD
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 4748

                    #10
                    I found the same problem with JEG's recent recording of the Brandenburgs...the sound was far too "close" for my liking.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20570

                      #11
                      So far, this seems to a balanced BaL without a pre-conceived agenda.

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                      • Thropplenoggin
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1587

                        #12
                        'Wordly tribulations', 'sensibility', several 'veritables' and the use of 'yield' as a verb...wonderful! Why can't every BBC R3 presenter speak with such precise and eloquent English?

                        Agree with EA. A very fair BaL. It had me glued to the radio from start to finish, and that doesn't happen often these days.
                        It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                        • doversoul1
                          Ex Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7132

                          #13
                          La Petite Bande, Sigiswald Kujiken

                          NA is a bit hard on Diego Fasolis but I think sacred music isn’t quite his best field.

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                          • LeMartinPecheur
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4717

                            #14
                            Originally posted by doversoul View Post
                            La Petite Bande, Sigiswald Kujiken
                            This frankly is a work that I don't care passionately about, but was nonetheless gratified to discover that I had chosen unerringly with my one and only version
                            I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              I rather like Jeggers in this I might even get the whole cycle. I think I am rather a Jeggers fan?!?!?
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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