BaL 30.11.13 - Chopin: 4 Ballades

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    BaL 30.11.13 - Chopin: 4 Ballades

    9.30am
    Building a Library:
    Jessica Duchen with a personal recommendation from recordings of Chopin's Four Ballades.

    Available versions:

    Alessandra Ammara
    Claudio Arrau
    Vladimir Ashkenazy
    Bernard d'Ascoli
    Emanuel Ax

    Jean-Sebastien Bardon
    Idel Biret
    Jorge Bolet
    Felipe Browne

    Alfred Cortot
    Sequeira Costa

    Bella Davidovich
    Nokolai Demidenko
    Francois-Rene Duchable

    Serge Edelmann

    Vladimir Feltsman

    Bernd Glemser
    Nelson Goerner (1848 Pleyel)
    Gary Graffman
    Friedrich Gulda

    Adam Harasaiewicz
    Etsuko Hirose
    Stephen Hough

    Amie Katz
    Anne Kauppi
    Freddy Kempf
    Kevin Kenner
    Evgeny Kisson
    Paul Komen
    Pawel Kowalski

    Hyekyung Lee
    Louis Lortie
    Jean-Marc Luisada

    Witold Malcuzynski
    Eugene Mursky
    Hamish Milne
    Benno Moiseiwitsch
    Istvan Moravec
    Jean Muller

    Alexander Paley
    Murray Perahia
    Vanessa Perez
    Vlado Perlemuter
    Nikolai Petrov
    Maurizio Pollini
    Vassily Primakov

    Sviatoslav Richter
    Jerome Rose
    Arthur Rubinstein

    Lise de al Salle
    Nima Sarkechik
    Staffan Scheja
    Arthur Schoonderwoerd (1836 Pleyel)
    Yuan Sheng (1845 Pleyel)
    Wojciech Swutala (2 versions: 1848 Pleyel & Steinway)
    Istvan Szekely

    Cedric Tiberghein
    Valerie Tryon
    Helene Tysman

    Tamas Vasary

    Nicolas Wickham-Irving
    Earl Wild

    Krystian Zimerman
    Gerrit Zitterbart
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 27-02-15, 12:39. Reason: Update
  • gradus
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5606

    #2
    I got to to know these pieces through Vasary's recording. Several pianists listed are unknown to me and I'm looking forward to the review.

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      #3
      Originally posted by gradus View Post
      Vasary


      Big fan of Perahia in these, too.

      Love these pieces, among the best of Chopin for me....

      Should be a good BAL, though if only Stephen Plaistow or David Owen-Norris were the reviewer
      Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 22-11-13, 20:13. Reason: fumblefingers
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20570

        #4
        If you only want no. 4, there are many more...

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        • Andrew Preview
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          • May 2011
          • 78

          #5
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post


          Big fan of Perahia in these, too.
          Ditto.
          "Not too heavy on the banjos." E. Morecambe

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          • LeMartinPecheur
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            • Apr 2007
            • 4717

            #6
            What a very long list, with so many pianists I've never heard of!

            Do I need another 'complete set'? I invested as a student in the Ashkenazy Decca LP and have added a BBC MM Vasary CD and an Arrau, plus a good number of single performances. Not very much space left on the shelves (my wife would say less than none), so I reckon something will have to be very special to tempt me
            I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #7
              Be quite a good BaL this! Hmm pity Argerich didn't record these. I have Ashkenazy. Great to see Murray Perahia in the winning sloot here.
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • slarty

                #8
                I have Bolet commercial and Live, Gulda, Pollini and Wild. no one plays no 1 better than michelangeli.
                With a host of other singles, I don't know if I would want another, but I will enjoy hearing the review.

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                • Don Petter

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                  What a very long list, with so many pianists I've never heard of!
                  I thought the current Malcuzynski Icon box included the Ballades? Not in Alp's list.

                  Another set I have, but I suspect nla, is the French Sony issue with Casadesus.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                    I thought the current Malcuzynski Icon box included the Ballades? Not in Alp's list.
                    To quote Kenneth Wolstenholme, "It is now."
                    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 23-11-13, 10:47. Reason: spelling

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                    • Alison
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6455

                      #11
                      Didn't Manny Ax win last time ? David Owen-Norris I think.

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                      • Sir Velo
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                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3225

                        #12
                        Much as I love these pieces, why are the Ballades coming round again, when there is so much repertory out there which hasn't been featured?

                        Spare me DON, by the way - far too idiosyncratic! Let's give Jessica Duchen a chance. I remember being quietly impressed by her review of the Faure Cello Sonatas.

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                        • Nick Armstrong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26523

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                          quietly impressed
                          That made me smile. (Not sure why!)

                          No problem giving her a chance - I just love SP or DON (SP in preference) talking about piano music, is all. I'd rather hear Jessica on something else.

                          When were the Ballades last on, anyone know?
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • amateur51

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            That made me smile. (Not sure why!)

                            No problem giving her a chance - I just love SP or DON (SP in preference) talking about piano music, is all. I'd rather hear Jessica on something else.

                            When were the Ballades last on, anyone know?
                            I'm not convinced of the logic of comparing umpteen recordings of four very different pieces by the same composer. They seem to be so different from each other. The most obvious conclusion if the pieces were dealt with separately would be, for example, Rubenstein in no 1, Perahia in 2, Arrau in 3 and Hanae Kakajima in 4

                            One pianist in all four might be possible but is it desirable? She might end up choosing the least bad or most satisfactory (far fetched I agree, but I hope that you see my point).

                            It'll be interesting to see how Jessica Duchen arrives at a convincing modus operandi.

                            Last edited by Guest; 23-11-13, 11:08. Reason: sorting out

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                            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 9173

                              #15
                              yes a tough challenge for the reviewer, only really listened to Perahia and very curious so anticipating eagerly [especially as it is not Britten ]
                              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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