BaL 21.09.13 - Sibelius Symphony no. 3 in C

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    BaL 21.09.13 - Sibelius Symphony no. 3 in C

    9.30 a.m.
    Richard Osborne with a personal recommendation from recordings of Sibelius's 3rd Symphony.

    Available recordings:-

    Utah SO, Maurice Abravanel
    Philharmonia Orchestra, Vladimir Ashkenazy (download)
    Halle Orchestra, Sir John Barbirolli (2 versions)
    Bournemouth SO, Paavo Berglund
    New York PO, Leonard Bernstein
    San Francisco SO, Herbert Blomstedt (download)
    LSO, Anthony Collins
    Boston SO, Sir Colin Davis
    LSO, Sir Colin Davis (2 versions)
    Halle Orchestra, Sir Mark Elder
    SNO, Sir Alexander Gibson
    New Zealand SO, Pietari Inkinen
    Oslo PO, Mariss Jansons
    Gothenburg SO, Neeme Jarvi
    LSO, Robert Kajanus
    Helsinki PO, Okku Kamu
    Philharmonia Orchestra, Paul Kletzki
    Slovak PO, Adrian Leaper (download)
    Pittsburg SO, Lorin Maazel
    VPO, Lorin Maazel
    Uppsala Kammarorkester, Paul Mägi
    Helsinki Festival Orchestra, Olli Mustonen
    CBSO, Sakari Oramo
    CBSO, Sir Simon Rattle
    Moscow Radio SO, Gennady Rozhdestvensky
    Iceland SO, Petri Sakari
    Helsinki PO, Leif Segerstam
    Symphony Nova Scotia, Georg Tintner
    Lahti SO, Osmo Vanska
    Adelaide SO, Arvo Volmer
    Northern Sinfonia, Thomas Zehetmair
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 27-02-15, 12:45.
  • Barbirollians
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11751

    #2
    RO doing Sibelius 3 ! Not a composer that one would have said was his obvious specialist interest .

    No Karajan in this symphony it seems ?

    Wish he was doing beethoven 3 instead !

    Kletzki , Ashkenazy, Barbirolli and Davis RCA for me .

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12307

      #3
      Robert Layton used to be called upon to do any Sibelius reviews at one time. It's nevertheless good to have RO back in the BaL chair once again no matter what he is reviewing.

      Sibelius 3? I like VPO/Maazel and Helsinki PO/Berglund. A great shame that Karajan never recorded it.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • Ruhevoll

        #4
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        RO doing Sibelius 3 ! Not a composer that one would have said was his obvious specialist interest .

        No Karajan in this symphony it seems ?

        Wish he was doing beethoven 3 instead !

        Kletzki , Ashkenazy, Barbirolli and Davis RCA for me .
        OT: A formidable task for whoever is asked to climb that Everest - but long overdue, I think. Does anyone know when the last Eroica BaL was?

        Back on topic - I'll be listening with interest, as I haven't clicked yet with Sibelius.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20572

          #5
          It is indeed surprising that HvK recorded ae.ll the Sibelius symphonies other than this one.


          I have VPO/Maazel (excellent) and Halle/Barbirolli (not JB's best - a very sluggish opening).

          Any bets on Davis being the winner?

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            as I haven't clicked yet with Sibelius
            Rubevoll, did you see the two Christopher Nupen films on the Beeb? They helped me to 'click'. They certainly were evocative of the Scandinavian landscape and its possible emotional bearing on the composer's work.

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            • pastoralguy
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7799

              #7
              For me, Gibson and the SNO's early recording for HMV. Very good indeed. I'm not sure it ever made it to cd.

              The later recording on Chandos, IMHO, was slacker in conception.

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              • pastoralguy
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7799

                #8
                Originally posted by Ruhevoll View Post
                OT:
                Back on topic - I'll be listening with interest, as I haven't clicked yet with Sibelius.

                I clicked with Sibelius at age 3 after my late, great, Uncle Bob used to play me the Karelia Suite on 45rpm.

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                • Ruhevoll

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                  Rubevoll, did you see the two Christopher Nupen films on the Beeb? They helped me to 'click'. They certainly were evocative of the Scandinavian landscape and its possible emotional bearing on the composer's work.
                  I didn't, no. I shall hunt them out on YouTube as most of the good BBC docs end up there (such as Gardiner's last one on Bach). Thanks for the tip!

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                  • Roehre

                    #10
                    Again shows the list of recordings of a Sibelius symphony that his work is mainly appreciated by Scandinavian orchestras or those from English speaking countries, with ditto conductors.
                    Only the Slovak PO, Moscow Radio SO, VPO, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Mariss Jansons, Gennady Rozhdestvensky and Thomas Zehetmair are the exceptions confirming the rule.
                    Just as with British composers Sibelius is not internationally as recognized as we on these isles think he is/should be.

                    BTW, for me it's VPO/Maazel ( - and the VPO features here because of Maazel's contract with Decca, dating back to the 1960s)

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                    • LeMartinPecheur
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4717

                      #11
                      I learnt the work from the DG Kamu recording on LP, and haven't bought that many CD alternatives (just Collins and Barbirolli in complete sets plus Elder on BBC MM).

                      Would still put in a plug for Mr Kamu
                      I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26569

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                        BTW, for me it's VPO/Maazel ( - and the VPO features here because of Maazel's contract with Decca, dating back to the 1960s)
                        I'm edging ever closer to investing in that VPO / Maazel set....

                        Alpie - I've always felt Colin Davis (both Boston and LSO) found something - a lilt and a poetry - in No 3 that I haven't heard from others.

                        Looking forward to this BAL from the classy Mr O
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Hornspieler
                          Late Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 1847

                          #13
                          Not the most popular of Sibelius symphonies.

                          I would put Kletzki, Davis and Gibson in the ring against Berglund, but I'm sure that Paavo would win with either of his recordings.

                          HS

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                          • Pabmusic
                            Full Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 5537

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                            Not the most popular of Sibelius symphonies...
                            I agree. But it's my favourite. I learnt it first from Anthony Collins (who leaves out the violin passages at the beginning of the scherzo - I've never understood why). I conducted it in 2004.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              HS, yes that is true but I rather like it as well. I have Ashkenazy and Vanska.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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