BaL 19.02.11 Ravel: Alborada del gracioso

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    #31
    It may not have been the most poetic or philosophical BAL but I enjoyed Rob’s talks on practical points of performances. I wonder, though, if you can call this a building a library which, I assume to mean, is to recommend a CD. Would you go and buy a CD for a work of eight minutes irrespective of everything else on the disc?

    I would love to see a BAL on short works from time to time, more than the usual brief surveys on the New Release slot. But I think it has to be a different format from the current one so that the BAL can actually recommend a CD rather than a particular performance of one work. May be to look at collections or projects with the main work in common? All those wonderful early Baroque works… (hint, hint ).

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    • Il Grande Inquisitor
      Full Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 961

      #32
      Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
      I'm surprised that Ansermet is only available as a download these days, I thought that it was on Australian Eloquence, I'll have to check.
      His stereo version is only available as a download. The Australian Eloquence disc is a mono recording from 1951, of which I am very fond. The instrumental colours are wonderful - very French - the sort you don't tend to get any more due to the homogenization of orchestral sound.
      Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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      • Ferretfancy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3487

        #33
        Il Grande Inquisitor

        Thanks for the information on the Ansermet mono, Decca published an Ansermet Edition on CD some years ago, which wasn't in circulation for long, and I have the stereo version from that series. I have been getting some of the Eloquence series, including the Jacqueline Blancard performances of the two concertos, which were the only LP recordings for a long time, and I got to know the music through them. Unfortunately they are something of a disappointment, perhaps I should have left them as a fond memory!
        Bws.
        Ferret

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        • Flosshilde
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7988

          #34
          Originally posted by Alf-Prufrock View Post
          But I have to register my amazement that Boulez was the victor. I never found his version Spanish-sounding enough - in fact I thought he was fighting against the Spanish elements all the way through.
          I don't know the piece, & didn't listen to the BAL on it, but surely it's a French composer's interpretation of a Spanish subject or theme - so it would perhaps be entirely appropriate to have a French conductor's interpretation of it - even if it wasn't 'spanish-sounding enough' - whatever that might mean

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #35
            Well I have listened carefully now and am reinforced in my view that the only version worth hearing until Ida records it is that broadcast on Radio 4 (Dutch Radio 4 that is) last week, an arrangement for 2 marimbas by Rachel Zhang and Laurent Warnier.

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            • Alf-Prufrock

              #36
              Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
              I don't know the piece, & didn't listen to the BAL on it, but surely it's a French composer's interpretation of a Spanish subject or theme - so it would perhaps be entirely appropriate to have a French conductor's interpretation of it - even if it wasn't 'spanish-sounding enough' - whatever that might mean
              I too think it entirely appropriate to have a French conductor's view - and indeed of any piece of music. For example, I love the interpretations of Alborada by Cluytens, Martinon and (less so) Tortelier Y.P., which I actually possess.

              Concerning whatever Spanish-sounding might mean, I think nearly all of us would recognise an echt-Viennese performance of a Johann Strauss work, and I trust that many of us would also recognise a Spanish-flavoured performance in its rhythm, colour, subtle rubato, and slancio. At least I hope so.

              And yes, I know that Cluytens was Belgian.

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