BaL 6.07.13 - Beethoven's Piano Sonata no. 32 in C minor Op. 111

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  • amateur51

    #76
    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    ... a marvellous list from our Alpie : many thanks.

    Among the 'original instrument' performances I also like Tom Beghin on a Johann Fritz of 1825.

    Of those using more modern instruments I still like Charles Rosen very much.

    Yves Nat probably a bit too wayward?

    Eric Heidsieck?
    Oh well done vints - Yves Nat! I must dig out the EMI Intégrale box

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26611

      #77
      How odd - I'm sure I posted yesterday evening, to thank EA for that amazing list; and to agree with
      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      I look forward to DON's analysis of the piece as much as to the choosing
      - Nozza's BALs are always among the most enjoyable

      As regards Op 111, I too had the

      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
      Pollini box set of late sonatas which was my staple for many years
      first on cassette, then on CD. I still think it's tremendous - but it's one of those performances that's so engrained in my brain that I struggle with the sense that 'that's how the piece should go'... and obviously there are many other ways to skin the cat.

      Solomon's reading is the only one I've added over the years.

      I thought the French critics had looked at the piece recently but it was in fact Op. 110 (Barenboim's 1968 recording won their approval, over Backhaus, Schnabel, Nat, Pollini and Kovacevich, but I didn't really like DB's way with the piece)

      I'm going to be fascinated by this BAL.
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #78
        I have Barenboim (live) DVD 2005, and his earlier account on EMI(complete set) and Emil Gilels, not so complete cycle on DG
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20585

          #79
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          Purely out of curiosity,EA, what criteria do you use for a work being officially available?
          Ooooo. You've got me there.
          I don't know whether or not a CD has been deleted, but I work on the premise that if it's only available new at a silly price, then it must be in extremely short supply.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20585

            #80
            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
            I thought it might be useful to provide a link to the "Summer BAL" thread:
            We'll let it run for a while as it is, but if it's OK with you, verismissimo, I'll merge the two threads within the next day or two.

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            • Black Swan

              #81
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Amongst younger pianists I have a great deal of time for Freddy Kempf's recording too . Uchida , though not so young is very fine too .

              Such a shame Gilels died before he recorded Op111 - judging by his 101,106,109 &110.
              I totally agree about Gilels his Hammerrklavier is one of my favorite recordings.

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              • pastoralguy
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7904

                #82
                Originally posted by aeolium View Post


                And as you say, am51, he is a particularly fine player of Beethoven.
                His set of the piano concertos with Gibson and the SNO for CfP is very good indeed. I really must listen to them again soon.

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                • amateur51

                  #83
                  There's a lovely performance by Katharina Wolpe

                  Katharina Wolpe (1931-2013), piano00:00 1. Maestoso - Allegro con brio ed appassionato 09:31 2. Arietta: Adagio molto semplice e cantabile


                  and it's available from Presto ...

                  Katharina Wolpe, Vol. 3. Symposium: SYMPCD1214. Buy download online. Katharina Wolpe (piano)


                  [download only ]
                  Last edited by Guest; 29-06-13, 16:44. Reason: download only

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                  • gradus
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5663

                    #84
                    I do hope somebody records the Lill birthday cycle as it is many years since his recordings of these works were made and his is a voice to be heard.

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25283

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Ooooo. You've got me there.
                      I don't know whether or not a CD has been deleted, but I work on the premise that if it's only available new at a silly price, then it must be in extremely short supply.
                      sorry EA, not trying to catch you out or anything . Keep up the brilliant work .

                      i guess the dividing line between available and unavailable is a little more blurred than it used to be.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • verismissimo
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2957

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        We'll let it run for a while as it is, but if it's OK with you, verismissimo, I'll merge the two threads within the next day or two.
                        Good thinking!

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20585

                          #87
                          Threads now merged.

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                          • Andrew Preview
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                            • May 2011
                            • 78

                            #88
                            I have just Pollini, Kovacevich (EMI) and Lewis. It's a while since I listened to any of them, but Kovacevich made the deepest impression. His performance is not the tidiest, and the recorded sound is less than ideal, but he seems to be living the music, rather than merely playing it. There are no half measures, and I rather like that. I'll try to have a listen to all three this week.
                            "Not too heavy on the banjos." E. Morecambe

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #89
                              Hows the Paul Lewis?
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • umslopogaas
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1977

                                #90
                                Unsurprisingly to those who have read it, there have been several references to Thomas Mann's 'Doctor Faustus' in this thread. Could I implore anyone who has not read it to do so without further delay? It is mighty powerful stuff and it scared the daylights out of this agnostic biologist. Mann doesnt mess around with trivia, the whole novel is laden with large dark themes, but Leverkuhn's description of his conversation with ... Him ... and the final scene when He comes to collect his dues are enough to make stronger men than me hide behind the sofa.

                                To quote the back cover blurb: "... Mann's vast theme: the discord between genius and sanity." The mood music he summons for the final scene certainly creates a clashing discord.

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