BaL 6.07.13 - Beethoven's Piano Sonata no. 32 in C minor Op. 111

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  • verismissimo
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    • Nov 2010
    • 2957

    BaL 6.07.13 - Beethoven's Piano Sonata no. 32 in C minor Op. 111

    9.30am Building a Library
    David Owen Norris surveys recordings of Beethoven's last piano sonata, No. 32 in C minor, Op. 111 and makes a personal recommendation

    (Original OP edited by Eine Alpensinfonie to facilitate merger of threads)
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 30-06-13, 11:56. Reason: Thread merger
  • rauschwerk
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1482

    #2
    I have: Schnabel, Brendel, Lewis, Pollini, Rosen, Kempff. I'll try and listen to them all in the next few days and report.

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    • verismissimo
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      • Nov 2010
      • 2957

      #3
      I have, like you rauschwerk, Schnabel and Pollini, plus young Barenboim, Uchida and Gulda.

      The one I'm in love with currently is Gulda.

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      • tom_960

        #4
        I'll be drawn to one of Kempff's recordings, having heard him play the piece live at the RFH near the end of his life. But Pollini's controlled power is awesome in the last three sonatas. I think I have a Richter recording too....

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        • Pianorak
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3128

          #5
          Wilhelm Backhaus - first time I heard the piece; and Backhaus is still a front-runner.
          My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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          • ostuni
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            • Nov 2010
            • 551

            #6
            Looking at my score (easier than looking at the cd shelves), I see I have rather a lot. Perl, Heidsieck, Kovacevich (73 & 03 versions), Rosen, Richter, Ciani, Ohlsson, Arrau, Goode, Gulda (Amadeo/Brilliant), P Serkin, Brautigam, Lubimov (the final 3 versions on fortepianos). I 'imprinted' on the Rosen, on LP back in the early 70s: he's still probably my favourite for this sonata, not least for the way he creates a sense of suspended time during all those trills in the final few pages.

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            • verismissimo
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              • Nov 2010
              • 2957

              #7
              Just discovered that I've also got young Brendel. I'll give it a new listen.

              So that's six for me and six for rauschwerk - neither anyway near ostuni's fourteen.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20572

                #8
                Available versions:-


                Nicholas Angelich
                Claudio Arrau (DVD - 1960)
                Claudio Arrau (DVD - 1964)
                Claudio Arrau (DVD – 1970/77)
                Vladimir Ashkenazy
                Wilhelm Backhaus (1954/56)
                Wilhelm Backhaus (1960)
                Wilhelm Backhaus (Decca)
                Paul Badura-Skoda
                Daniel Barenboim (DVD/Blu-ray - live 1983)
                Daniel Barenboim (DVD - live 2005)
                Daniel Barenboim (EMI/DG)
                Stephen Beville
                John Bingham
                Malcolm Binns
                Ida Biret
                Ronald Brautigam
                Alfred Brendel (Philips/Decca/Vox)
                Kim Brewer
                Rudolf Buchbinder
                Shura Cherkassky
                Dino Ciani
                Richard Cionco (download)
                Jeremy Denk
                Simone Dinnerstein
                Vladimir Feltsman
                Annie Fischer
                Edwin Fischer
                Claude Frank
                Walter Gieseking (2 versions)
                Stewart Goodyear
                Vera Gornostaeva
                Glenn Gould (2 versions)
                Maria Grinberg
                Friedrich Gulda (Decca/Orfeo/Preiser)
                Youra Guller
                François-Frédéric Guy
                Andreas Haefliger
                Clara Haskil
                Jean-Francois Heisser
                Randall Hodgkinson
                Mieczislaw Horszowski
                Stephen Hough
                Michael Houstoun
                Bruce Hungerford
                Jeno Jando
                Alina Kabanova
                Julius Katchen
                Freddy Kempf
                Wilhelm Kempff (1956/60)/DG x 2
                Mari Kodama
                Paul Komen
                David Korevaar
                Michael Korstick
                Stephen Kovacevich
                Anton Kuerti
                Jacob Lateiner
                Yvonne Lefébure
                Elisabeth Leonskaja
                Christian Leotta
                Beth Levin
                Paul Lewis
                HJ Lim
                Louis Lortie
                Alexei Lubimov
                Irén Marik
                Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli (download)
                Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli (DVD)
                Benjamin Moser
                Tatiana Nikolayeva
                Romuald Noll
                John O’Conor
                Garrick Ohlsson
                John Ogdon (1963)
                Yoshiko Okada
                Gerhard Oppitz
                Marios Papadopoulos
                Olga Pashchenko
                Alfredo Perl
                Cédric Pescia
                Egon Petri
                Artur Pizarro
                Mikhail Pletnov
                Georges Pludermacher
                Ivo Pogorelich (CD/DVD)
                Maurizio Pollini
                Jean-Bernard Pommier
                Vassily Primakov
                Sviatoslav Richter (4 versions)
                Hans Richter-Haaser
                Robert Riefling
                Bernard Roberts
                Martin Roscoe
                Victor Rosenbaum
                Carol Rosenberger
                Pietro Scarpini
                András Schiff (DVD – lecture recital)
                András Schiff (CD)
                Artur Schnabel
                Rudolf Serkin
                Antti Siirala
                Ronald Smith
                Inger Södergren
                Solomon (2 versions)
                Einar Steen–Nøkleberg
                Mark Swartzentruber
                Mitsuko Uchida
                Dina Ugorskaja
                Ferenc Vizi
                Lasr Vogt (DVD – live)
                Gerard Willems
                Maria Yudina
                Boris Zarankin
                Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 27-02-15, 12:54.

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                • Bryn
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #9
                  Where on Earth to start? There are so many that are special to me. There's the three Gulda recordings, each with its particular delights, then the three I have by Paul Badura-Skoda (2 on Bösendorfers and one on his c. 1824 Graf) then there's Arrau, a couple of Schnabels, various Brendels and Barenboims, Lewis, the very fine Brautigam, Lubimov and Schiff recordings from recent years, etc., etc. I think, though, the one I would make the bravest attempt to save from a fire would be that by Paul Komen on a c. 1830 Graf. It does it for me every time, but then there's Malcolm Binns, whose recording first awoke me to the glories of the fortepiano in this work ...

                  [The 1942 RCA Schnabel recording is in sore need of a decent CD transfer, by the way.]

                  [[What a useful thread this is. Prompted by it I did a bit of Googling for the 1942 Schnabel and found, to my delight that it, along with that of Op. 109, was included on a Great Pianist of the 20th Century album. Just ordered a used (good condition) copy via amazon.co.uk. Hopefully it is a better transfer than the RCA double album:

                  Last edited by Bryn; 13-07-11, 21:29. Reason: Additional note.

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                  • Bryn
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

                    Malcolm Bilson or Tom Beghin or David Breitman or Bart van Oort or Ursula Dütschler (?) [HELP]
                    Tom Beghin on an 1825 Fritz. I think I'll give it a spin right now.

                    [Hmm, right from the start it is clearly not in the same class as his rather later Haydn recordings on Naxos Blu-ray Audio.]

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                    • makropulos
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1676

                      #11
                      Bryn - I'd very much go along with several on your list. On a modern instrument, Gulda is the pianist I turn to most often for Opp. 109, 110 and 111, closely followed by Arrau. But clearly I need to hear (and buy) Kornen's disc on a Graf - you make it sound quite marvellous.

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                      • Parry1912
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 965

                        #12
                        Pogorelich on CD is as good as any I've heard (and I've heard a few)
                        Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”

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                        • Bryn
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          makropulos, the Komen can be either bought on CD or downloaded in mp3 format from amazon.co.uk. However, a customer review there warns that the mp3s have no pause at the end of each 'track'. I would guess that that could be easily sorted with a bit of editing.

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                          • gurnemanz
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Solomon, Gulda, Kempff and the new Lubimov on fortepiano which I like very much.

                            I got to know this work as a German undergraduate at Durham 40 years ago. We were doing Thomas Mann with our lecturer, John Smeed. One week he took us through the op 111 analysis in the novel, Dr Faustus - with musical examples, as I recall.

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                            • ostuni
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 551

                              #15
                              Originally posted by makropulos View Post
                              On a modern instrument, Gulda is the pianist I turn to most often for Opp. 109, 110 and 111, closely followed by Arrau.
                              Interesting: Gulda is the pianist I'd turn to most often for the early sonatas, but I find him sometimes a bit rushed in the late ones - here, as I said earlier, I love Rosen's approach. I've just put most of my op 111s (and my op 2/2s) onto my mp3 player: I've lucky enough to have a week in Provence next week, and look forward to some evenings in with the headphones on...

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