BaL 1.06.13 - Brahms Symphony no 2 in D

[Alison]

Petrushka

An exacta or a computer straight forecast (CSF) ( albeit I have never got the difference the former being a part of pool betting rather than a direct calculation ) is a bet on getting the 1st and 2nd in a race - a reverse exacta being a split of your stakes

Hence a £5 reverse exacta sees 2.50 going on Horse A to beat Horse B and 2.50 on Horse B to beat Horse A

Yesterday the Ruler of the World-Libertarian exacta paid £65.40 to a £1 stake and the CSF £94.54. Hence a £10 CSF would have paid £945.40 !

A winning exacta is a most satisfying experience! As a rule the tote version pays the better divi but clearly not in yesterday's big race. What a fascinating race it was yesterday. The proven stayers certainly came to the fore.

[Andrew Preview]

Can anyone who's familiar with the Jurowski Brahms 2 tell me whether it's free from the kind of tempo quirk that spoils his account of the 1st symphony (I'm thinking of how he slams on the brakes at 14:50 in the finale)?

[Thropplenoggin]

Can anyone who's familiar with the Jurowski Brahms 2 tell me whether it's free from the kind of tempo quirk that spoils his account of the 1st symphony (I'm thinking of how he slams on the brakes at 14:50 in the finale)?

Unable to answer this kind of query, alas, but it is available to listen to here: http://player.qobuz.com/#!/album/0854990001437

[Barbirollians]

Listening to this BAL - so far the Boult, 1955 Philharmonia/Karajan and the Furtwangler have been my favourites. Struggling to hear what the fuss is about Jurowski .

The Haitink is about the only one I do not have I am tempted to get - I was very taken with his Tragic and Academic Festival overtures coupled with Arrau's Brahms concertos and the extracts from the symphony confirmed that.

Most of all I am wondering where the hell is Bruno Walter ???- add to him Sanderling, Ancerl, Jochum in 1977 , Loughran, Kertesz etc . I agree with Nimrod about Barbirolli - his Bavarian RSO record in particular is magnificent.

Rattle gets a mention as very good but not stellar - an epithet that I would not grant to this BAL . Another mediocre effort from Johnson.

I wish they had given this BAL to Richard Osborne instead .

[jayne lee wilson]

Thanks, Jayne. I have a Meridian Amp which was, 20 odd years ago. their flagship Amplifier. I bought it second hand from a friend who was upgrading and I liked the sound so much that I've never had the courage to fiddle with it! Perhaps I should be more willing to experiment...

Oooh, is that one of those lovely glass-fronted, or two-box designs? Industrial works of Art - just gorgeous!

Waldhorn, Harnoncourt's orchestra in the Brahms 2 (the whole cycle) is the Berlin Phil - and a very refreshed sound they make!

[vinteuil]

Waldhorn, Harnoncourt's orchestra in the Brahms 2 (the whole cycle) is the Berlin Phil - and a very refreshed sound they make!

... meaning they sound as if they had copious glasses of Bier before the recording??

[EdgeleyRob]

Remarkably little fallout from this BaL after quite a formidable forum build up.

For once it seems nobody is feeling cheated, bemused or otherwise offended.

Well done Mr J !

I'm a little bemused that the superb Szell/Cleveland didn't get a mention,but I'm not bitter.

[BBMmk2]

That was mentioned earlier Rob!! :)

[cloughie]

I'm a little bemused that the superb Szell/Cleveland didn't get a mention,but I'm not bitter.

Don't take it personally Kempe and Monteux (VPO and LSO) both missed out also.

[Alison]

I'm a little bemused that the superb Szell/Cleveland didn't get a mention,but I'm not bitter.

I guess people getting irate and throwing coffee mugs around is all part of the fascination of the programme.

[EdgeleyRob]

The sort of day to confirm that horseracing and music provide the greatest pleasures in life.

I agree - together with wine and parenthood !

I would also add grandparenthood and football.

[Alison]

In sport I tend to like all the drama compacted into two or three minutes
whereas in music I have the patience for the epic journeys.

I really feel like feasting on Brahms on my car journeys this week.

[Alison]

Can anyone who's familiar with the Jurowski Brahms 2 tell me whether it's free from the kind of tempo quirk that spoils his account of the 1st symphony (I'm thinking of how he slams on the brakes at 14:50 in the finale)?

Nothing like that admittedly jarring moment in 1(iv).

[mathias broucek]

. I agree with Nimrod about Barbirolli - his Bavarian RSO record in particular is magnificent.

And comes with a rather good RVW 6 - unexpected repertoire for a pre-Colin Davis BRSO!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

That was mentioned earlier Rob!! :)

Repeats are good