BaL 1.06.13 - Brahms Symphony no 2 in D

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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    Jurowski!!
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • amateur51

      Who's this Stella SJ just mentioned? Not Rattle, Abbado or Alsop apparently

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        There you go, Thropple; your each-way bet gets you your beer money.

        So, Abbado "good but not distinguished", eh? Well; that's me told!


        (Tears up betting slip and goes off to play Loughran.)
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • antongould
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8845

          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          Anyway, LPO/Jurowski will win and I congratulate in advance the dapper Mr Johnson on his selection.
          Hope you didn't have to go odds on Alison......

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          • amateur51

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            There you go, Thropple; your each-way bet gets you your beer money.

            So, Abbado "good but not distinguished", eh? Well; that's me told!


            (Tears up betting slip and goes off to play Loughran.)


            I was rather taken by the snippet he played of Jochum's early 1950s performance. I was very glad that he played Toscanini and Furtwangler recordings but no Walter?

            But an excellent BaL I thought - a neophyte will not go wrong with Jurowski's winner and yet will be left with lots of other versions to explore intriguingly

            Andrew let the decision-making cat out of the bag at the end - SJ chose the only recording on which you can hear his clapping and cry of "hello Mum!"

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            • Nimrod
              Full Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 152

              We all have our favourites, of course, and Mr Johnson played some fine performances and some not so fine. But what I find irritating time after time, and yet again today, is the BAL teams frequent omission of any reference to Barbirolli's achivements. He was a regular conductor of Brahms and a fine one too, and right now there are three live perfomances on CD all of which he would not have to apologise for, such as he did with Toscanini! Does the old predjudice of anything North of Watford still linger on??

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22225

                Any mention of Kempe or Monteux?

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                • Alison
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6487

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  Hope you didn't have to go odds on Alison......
                  Now need Dawn Approach for the double. Lots off odds against available !

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26598

                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Wand fallen and on his way to the Tesco burger factory; overtaken by Jurowski - the bookies suddenly looking worried. But Haitink (changing mounts from Amsterdam to London: is that allowed?!) keeping his position.



                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Any mention of Kempe or Monteux?
                    Nope


                    Best BAL thread ever ?!?

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26598

                      Originally posted by antongould View Post
                      go odds on
                      I have never known what that means....
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        No Abbado this time! So just goes to0 show! All depends on the critic!
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • aeolium
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3992

                          And the vexed question of the exposition repeat was IIRC never mentioned by SJ (perhaps because at least two and perhaps three of his placed runners, Klemperer, Haintink/CO and Jochum did not perform the repeat)

                          I liked the Boult excerpt, and was sorry there was no mention of van Beinum's live version from 1954...
                          Last edited by aeolium; 01-06-13, 10:06.

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                          • Alison
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6487

                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            I have never known what that means....
                            With odds the second number is what you have to stake to win the first number.

                            Eg. 6-4. A four pound stake would win you six quid plus the return of your four pounds.

                            With odds on the second number is bigger then than the first.

                            Eg. 1-2 or 4-6.

                            When you bet odds on you will win less than your stake.
                            Last edited by Alison; 01-06-13, 10:07.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26598

                              Originally posted by Alison View Post
                              With odds the second number is what you have to stake to win the first number.

                              Eg. 6-4. A four pound stake would win you six quid plus the return of your four pounds.

                              With odds on the second number is bigger then than the first.

                              Eg. 1-2 or 4-6.

                              When you bet odds on you will less than your stake.

                              Thanks Alison (in your last line, is that "you will win..."?)

                              But why would you ever


                              Originally posted by antongould View Post
                              have to go odds on
                              ... why might you be forced to ?
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • amateur51

                                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                                With odds the second number is what you have to stake to win the first number.

                                Eg. 6-4. A four pound stake would win you six quid plus the return of your four pounds.

                                With odds on the second number is bigger then than the first.

                                Eg. 1-2 or 4-6.

                                When you bet odds on you will less than your stake.
                                Blimey Alison, many thanks - my floor is covered in scales that have fallen

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