BaL 9.03.13 - Mozart's Piano Concerto no.19 in F, K.459

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  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12242

    #16
    I'm happy with Brendel/Marriner in this. However, must search out the Pollini/Böhm recording.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #17
      Just bought the BIS 24/96 of Brautigam/Kolner Akademie and am much taken with it... also like Andreas Staier/Concerto Koln...
      Buchbinder from his cycle with the VSO is sweeter, more romantic, but that lovely orchestra retains enough agility. One of their best.

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #18
        Not another Mozart work on BaL?
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Alison
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          • Nov 2010
          • 6455

          #19
          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          Not another Mozart work on BaL?
          The piano concertos seem to come round all too infrequently.

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #20
            Still yet another Mozart work, though! :(
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • akiralx
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              • Oct 2011
              • 427

              #21
              I'm a big fan of the Zacharias SACDs from Lausanne series on MDG - wonderful performances superbly recorded. My local store here in Melbourne had a sale with them for $10 each so I stocked up on a few...

              Is that Sofronitzky a daughter of the Scriabiniste?

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              • amateur51

                #22
                Originally posted by akiralx View Post
                I'm a big fan of the Zacharias SACDs from Lausanne series on MDG - wonderful performances superbly recorded. My local store here in Melbourne had a sale with them for $10 each so I stocked up on a few...

                Is that Sofronitzky a daughter of the Scriabiniste?
                It is she and a wonderful set it is too

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Con...2&sr=8-1-spell

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26524

                  #23
                  Originally posted by akiralx View Post
                  I'm a big fan of the Zacharias SACDs from Lausanne series on MDG - wonderful performances superbly recorded. My local store here in Melbourne had a sale with them for $10 each so I stocked up on a few...
                  Hi aki I'm with you - I love this developing cycle too, and am collecting it when I find them at an acceptable price (I have the first five volumes) - lucky you, finding them cheap.

                  I only have K459 on Vol 4 of that series, and also in the Perahia/ECO version (my starting point and the only version I had for years). Both are wonderful and it will take something very special to dislodge them and get me to part with the hard-earned....

                  Nonetheless, this is going to be a BAL I'll find very interesting.

                  Not sure about N Kenyon... what do we think about him on BAL? I can't recall his others...
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Stunsworth
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1553

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    Still yet another Mozart work, though! :(
                    Live just checked the BaL website, and I counted 5 Mozart works since Sept 2010
                    Steve

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                    • amateur51

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
                      Live just checked the BaL website, and I counted 5 Mozart works since Sept 2010
                      That's about right I reckon, although I do realise that others might prefer BaLs on the works of George Lloyd, Dyson, Ned Rorem, etc.

                      What cheap BaLs they would be!

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26524

                        #26
                        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                        That's about right I reckon, although I do realise that others might prefer BaLs on the works of George Lloyd, Dyson, Ned Rorem, etc.

                        What cheap BaLs they would be!


                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • silvestrione
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1704

                          #27
                          Just listened to my old Turnabout LP of Brendel with the Vienna Volksoper under a Wifried Boettcher. I always loved it, and it came up as fresh as fresh can be. Why is it that only young pianists can touch the piano like that? (OK, I know really) The playing of pianist and orchestra alike is joyous, buoyant, sprightly, chameleon-like in its playful changeableness, with a kind of inventive, creative spirit at work, which is Mozart's of course, but the players' as well. The sonorities are delightful, and the way Brendel matches piano sonorities to woodwind a joy also. The flute, oboe and basson are superb (I remember Richard Osborne suggesting years ago that they are almost certainly from the VPO of the day), as is whoever plays the left hand figures in the piano part in the contrapuntal episodes (forgive that whimsy: it's marvellous how Brendel makes them sound like an extra instrument). My version is mono, the sound a little thin I suppose, but you will see that I cannot believe there is a better version, except in terms of recording quality. I have Schnabel and the later Brendel and a Clara Haskil all fine but not on quite the same level.

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                          • aeolium
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3992

                            #28
                            silvestrione #27

                            That VVO/Boettcher/Brendel recording was my first experience of the work and, as you say, a really good performance (though I didn't think of that at the time, only about the music). In fact, my brother had a collection of those Turnabout LPs of Mozart piano concertos (and the Vanguard one of nos 9 and 14 with Brendel partnered by I Solisti di Zagreb and Antonio Janigro). They were an excellent introduction to the works, though the sound on the Turnabouts was not the greatest.

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                            • silvestrione
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                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1704

                              #29
                              Yes, aeol, I had no 22 in E flat as well, which I also loved, and the oboe (or is it flute) and bassoon passage in the slow movement I thought one of the most wonderful sounds on earth. And the minuet in the last movement....oh...Sadly, that LP did not last as well as the one with K 453 and 459.

                              It is fascinating to compare Brendel's quality of touch in those Turnabouts, with how it is in the recordings with Marriner. So light and quick and alive, in those earlier ones. Heavier when it needs to be. May be something to do with the instrument he was using, too?

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                              • aeolium
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3992

                                #30
                                I agree with your comment about the later Philips recordings with Marriner and the ASMF (though of course there were many more recordings around by then). Yet Brendel himself apparently disavowed the earlier recordings IIRC.

                                Another very good Turnabout was the one with the last concerto K595, I think with the Vienna Pro Musica and Paul Angerer. Again my first encounter with that work. I loved the almost unearthly sound of the first movement.

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