BaL 16.02.13 - Mahler's 6th Symphony in A minor

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  • remdataram
    Full Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 154

    #31
    I have the Bernstein (Sony) and Karajan recordings amongst others, but mention of Abbado is long overdue on this thread. His recording with the BPO and Karajan's are my two favourites.
    The Abbado Lucerne DVD issue is also very fine.

    Whatever the final choice we are spoiled with so many available recordings. Just as well since the BBC seem to be reducing the airtime Mahler receives!

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      #32
      Originally posted by remdataram View Post
      mention of Abbado is long overdue on this thread.


      You beat me to it! I'd back Claudio in this piece - possibly for the "first heard" reason canvassed above.

      I learnt the piece from his Chicago recording and for a long time it was the only one I had. I've since added to it Tennstedt/LPO on cassette (never replaced it with CD - can't quite believe I've never added the live Tennstedt: I'll be listening out for this on BAL), the Bernstein / VPO - trenchant, urgent, magnificent - and Abbado's 2005 Berlin reading, plus Mackerras / BBC Phil. live (not mentioned so far: great stuff, but not in the running or EA's list due to being a BBCMM freebie, like the Otaka Walton 1 last week ).

      But I always return to Abbado, not least because of one of the great moments in recorded music for me (I should have mentioned it in the 'goose bumps' thread), the way he takes the slow movement to an extra, incendiary level at the final climax. He does it in both versions I own. Just extraordinary.
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #33
        I have two Abbado's(Lucerne, dvd and the Berliners), Karajan, and Barbirolli.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11669

          #34
          The live Barbirolli is very special . Listened to it last night (having only intended to listen to the first movement !)

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          • BBMmk2
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #35
            The one I have is taken from the EMI set(I think that could be the studio version though?)
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • Beef Oven

              #36
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post


              You beat me to it! I'd back Claudio in this piece - possibly for the "first heard" reason canvassed above.

              I learnt the piece from his Chicago recording and for a long time it was the only one I had. I've since added to it Tennstedt/LPO on cassette (never replaced it with CD - can't quite believe I've never added the live Tennstedt: I'll be listening out for this on BAL), the Bernstein / VPO - trenchant, urgent, magnificent - and Abbado's 2005 Berlin reading, plus Mackerras / BBC Phil. live (not mentioned so far: great stuff, but not in the running or EA's list due to being a BBCMM freebie, like the Otaka Walton 1 last week ).

              But I always return to Abbado, not least because of one of the great moments in recorded music for me (I should have mentioned it in the 'goose bumps' thread), the way he takes the slow movement to an extra, incendiary level at the final climax. He does it in both versions I own. Just extraordinary.
              Cally, did not you and I champion Abbado in 6 on another thread a while back?

              For me it's:

              Abbado - BPO
              Szell - Cleveland SO
              Heribert Ritter von Karajan - BPO

              Szell was my introduction to the work, which was augmented by the karajan a few years later. I picked up the Abbado on SACD when it came out and was not expecting so much!

              I would give special mention to others:

              Valery Gergiev delivered a white-hot, land-speed breaking performance in London with the LSO a few years back. That was one of the best concerts I'd ever attended. The subsequent LSO Live recording, taken from a (2?) subsequent live performances, was never going to do justice.

              I adore Rubber Brolly's EMI recording (indeed I played it mid-week, as I regularly do). It can no-way be considered as a 'recommendable' performance, but I just love the ridiculously long drag-thru, where he's almost loitering in the score! It makes for some unexpectedly beautiful moments in the higher-tempo parts of the work.

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              • Roehre

                #37
                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                Wonderful list EA - bravo!
                Seconded.
                The Bielefelder of 1970 [the German equivalent of the Grammophon Record Catalogue] gives us a choice out of 6......
                (With in total nearly 70 records with mahlerian music -symphonies + songs!- in total.
                Times have changed a bit (Klemperer remarked in 1972 or so that Mahler was becoming a fashion).

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                • amateur51

                  #38
                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  you (and a few others round here) must be brilliant at putting shelves up.

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                  • Roehre

                    #39
                    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                    Only 3 here
                    Makes two of us

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #40
                      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                      Cards on the table then.

                      VPO Bernstein (complete set).
                      VPO Boulez.
                      BPO Karajan.
                      SNAP!!

                      Oh.


                      Err ...


                      ... except that I might swap VPO/Bernstein for NYPO/Bernstein.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26523

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                        Cally, did not you and I champion Abbado in 6 on another thread a while back?
                        Sounds highly likely!
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #42
                          The Abbado is probably a front runner in the Alison stakes: it was Claudio's Mahler #8 that JJ chose in his last Seedy Review.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26523

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            The Abbado is probably a front runner in the Alison stakes: it was Claudio's Mahler #8 that JJ chose in his last Seedy Review.
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • gurnemanz
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7381

                              #44
                              I have a modest two versions - both obvious choices - Bernstein and Karajan. (I once had an LP version but its has vanished and I can't even remember who was conducting), so a rather boring piece of information in itself, but I noted that Karajan at 82 mins spreads over 2CDs, (with Christa Ludwig as rather special filler on DG Originals), whereas Bernstein at 78 mins just squeezes onto one CD. I just idly wondered how this distinction might be reflected in the marvellous list presented in message 1.

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                              • amateur51

                                #45
                                Another 'discussion point' may be how many hammer blows we get in the final movement - not a cause for dismissal though.

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