BaL 29.12.12 - Beethoven's Missa Solemnis

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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26570

    #76
    Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
    Was Solti's mentioned.... I can't recall; or Ormandy for that matter. Two performances which I particularly enjoy (notwithstanding Solti not being everybody's cup of tea)
    I guess the "staple" here is Klemperer - and with good reason; it's damn good listening!
    I find Herreweghe very good indeed, but a bit lacking in "punch" please forgive my terminology, but I am not a musician, so it's the best I can do, but I know many of you are of the world of music, and have probably not even read this far into my posting!
    Neither Solti nor Ormandy received a mention. They were included in the pre-programme sweepings...
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • visualnickmos
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3614

      #77
      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      ..... They were included in the pre-programme sweepings...
      I don't know if it's just me, but I have the impression that BaL has changed, in that only a small handfull of "available" recordings are pre-selected, and - well, that's it, folks. Hardly a representative survey, that's for sure.

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      • visualnickmos
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3614

        #78
        PS I thought the Giulini was good, of course - but a first choice? There are many equal winners in this work.

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26570

          #79
          Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
          I don't know if it's just me, but I have the impression that BaL has changed, in that only a small handfull of "available" recordings are pre-selected, and - well, that's it, folks. Hardly a representative survey, that's for sure.
          You're right - it's for reasons mentioned in recent messages...
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • gurnemanz
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7405

            #80
            In the past when there was pre-selection (which is usually essential), I seem to remember we used to get some brief details of what had been excluded and why.

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3614

              #81
              Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
              In the past when there was pre-selection (which is usually essential), I seem to remember we used to get some brief details of what had been excluded and why.
              That's what I thought.

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              • visualnickmos
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3614

                #82
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                ..... it's for reasons mentioned in recent messages...
                I don't doubt that, but surely then this is changing the goalposts, as it has become more of a "This is what we think is the best recording of work in question, so there" rather than a balanced survey. OK - I know some works have literally hundreds of available recordings, but more often than not, celebrated and highly lauded versions are completely blanked... or at worst binned for "technical reasons" ignoring the spirit of the performance, as well as the fact that they have been loved and listened to millions over the years, blah-dee-blah-dee-blah.....

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25225

                  #83
                  Since the subject came up, I gave the Zinman/ Tonhalle a spin today.

                  I think it has much to recommend it. Good choir, and the Credo is excellent. I like the Zinman's typically brisk tempos in this.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11751

                    #84
                    Loved the Klemperer .

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #85
                      I do too, Barbs.I have Jegger's, Harnoncourt's and Herreweghe's. Ph and Solti. I think my favourite of this has to be,,,,,,,,,,,Harnoncourt!

                      Good to discuss about this work, as it's still ringing in my ears!
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • gurnemanz
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7405

                        #86
                        Glancing back through this revived thread (with memories of the now defunct Thropplenoggin!) I seem to have already said what I have to say on this topic. I was interested to note that I was alone in mentioning what I find to be a very worthwhile Colin Davis version coupled with Mass in C.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #87
                          Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                          Glancing back through this revived thread (with memories of the now defunct Thropplenoggin!) I seem to have already said what I have to say on this topic. I was interested to note that I was alone in mentioning what I find to be a very worthwhile Colin Davis version coupled with Mass in C.
                          Is that on the Philips label?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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