BaL 22.01.11 - Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie

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  • gradus
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5622

    I heard it from the Storm onwards and was err ... blown away.
    In truth a magnificent performance.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20572

      I've just ordered another recording: Leipzig Gewandhaus/Nelsons, but it was an expensive purchase, as it was in a 7CD boxset. However it does have the benefit of including Aus Italien, which was never one of the fillers on the "mountain' of other recordings of the later work.

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6468

        Boston Symphony Alpie.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20572

          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          Boston Symphony Alpie.
          Oops. Yes!

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          • symphony1010
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            • Aug 2018
            • 13

            Sorry, I haven't trawled through all 47(!) pages of this thread but has this one come up yet? It's a BBCMM CD from 1991 with Jansons and the BBC Welsh. I used to play it to musical friends and say. 'What do you think? Berlin, Chicago, Vienna?' Nope!
            I uploaded it some years ago - see what you think. Try 20 minutes in if time is short.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20572

              Originally posted by symphony1010 View Post
              Sorry, I haven't trawled through all 47(!) pages of this thread but has this one come up yet? It's a BBCMM CD from 1991 with Jansons and the BBC Welsh. I used to play it to musical friends and say. 'What do you think? Berlin, Chicago, Vienna?' Nope!
              I uploaded it some years ago - see what you think. Try 20 minutes in if time is short.
              https://youtu.be/KAkk83xf6J4
              The Jansons/BBC Welsh was first mentioned in Petrushka's #3 in this thread.

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              • symphony1010
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                • Aug 2018
                • 13

                Thanks for that! I expected 47 pages would cover pretty much everything!

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                • smittims
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                  • Aug 2022
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                  'One to Avoid' as BBc Music Magazine used to say, is, in my opinion, Solti. Usually so good in Strauss, he seems to have felt this work is in danger of outstaying its welcome so he tends to rush it all through.

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                  • Bryn
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by smittims View Post
                    'One to Avoid' as BBc Music Magazine used to say, is, in my opinion, Solti. Usually so good in Strauss, he seems to have felt this work is in danger of outstaying its welcome so he tends to rush it all through.
                    Maybe ideal for the earphones during today's Great North Run, then?

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                    • teamsaint
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25225

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Maybe ideal for the earphones during today's Great North Run, then?
                      Even a run through a late period Maazel would put pressure on EAs undoubted running ability in a 13 miler…….
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • cloughie
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                        • Dec 2011
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                        Originally posted by smittims View Post
                        'One to Avoid' as BBc Music Magazine used to say, is, in my opinion, Solti. Usually so good in Strauss, he seems to have felt this work is in danger of outstaying its welcome so he tends to rush it all through.
                        Nah, Solti’s recordings were never ‘ones to be avoided’. Always worth a listen - often quicker than many, but rarely dull!

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                        • smittims
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                          • Aug 2022
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                          Well, each to his own, cloughie, but fast can sometimes be dull, this year's Prom 9th symphony for instance (IMHO).

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20572

                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            Even a run through a late period Maazel would put pressure on EAs undoubted running ability in a 13 miler…….
                            Actually, that’s just about the speed I was doing yesterday.

                            But returning to rushing the Alpine Symphony, perhaps the worst culprit is Franz Welser-Möst, whose sunset sounds like a cataclysmic solar disaster, or perhaps he thought the mountaineers were being carried down by an avalanche.

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                            • Pulcinella
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                              • Feb 2014
                              • 11062

                              This work is the subject of BaL in the Christmas 2024 edition of BBC MM.

                              Malcolm Hayes made the judgement.

                              The best recording:
                              Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Seiji Ozawa (1996, Philips)

                              Three other great recordings:
                              Dresden Staatskapelle, Rudolf Kempe (1971, Warner)
                              Pittsburgh SO, Marek Janowski (2009, Pentatone)
                              Berlin PO, Herbert von Karajan (1980, DG)

                              One to avoid (he says 'not at all bad as such'):
                              Weimar Staatskapelke, Antoni Wit (2006, Naxos)
                              Last edited by Pulcinella; 29-11-24, 10:07. Reason: Closing quote added.

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                              • oliver sudden
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                                • Feb 2024
                                • 644

                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

                                Actually, that’s just about the speed I was doing yesterday.

                                But returning to rushing the Alpine Symphony, perhaps the worst culprit is Franz Welser-Möst, whose sunset sounds like a cataclysmic solar disaster, or perhaps he thought the mountaineers were being carried down by an avalanche.
                                I saw FWM and the Clevelanders conduct it in Köln a few years ago. With an electronic organ and indeed the sunset you describe, with the additional displeasure of watching him slice his way through it.

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