BaL 10.11.12 Schubert's - 4th Symphony "Tragic"

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    BaL 10.11.12 Schubert's - 4th Symphony "Tragic"

    Richard Wigmore with a personal recommendation from recordings of Schubert's 4th Symphony "The Tragic.".

    Available recordings:

    The Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Claudio Abbado
    Berliner Philharmoniker, Daniel Barenboim
    Dresden Staatskapelle, Herbert Blomstedt
    Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Karl Böhm
    London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult
    Orchestra of the 18th Century, Bruggen
    Dresden State Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis (download)
    Leningrad Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra, Alexander Dmitriev
    Budapest Festival Orchestra, Iván Fischer
    Moscow Orchestra, Roland Freisitzer
    USSR SO, Alexander Gauk
    Berliner Philharmoniker, Carlo Maria Giulini
    Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Carlo Maria Giulini
    The Hanover Band, Roy Goodman
    Budapest Failoni Chamber Orchestra, Michael Halasz
    Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Nikolaus Harnoncourt
    Anima Eterna Brugge, Jos van Immerseel
    London Symphony Orchestra, Don Jackson
    Stockholm Sinfonietta, Neeme Järvi
    Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan
    Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Istvan Kertesz
    Concertgebouw Orchestra, Otto Klemperer
    Lamoureux Concert Association Orchestra, Otto Klemperer
    Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Rafael Kubelik
    Philharmonica Hungarica, Peter Maag
    Academy of St Martin in the Fields, Sir Neville Marriner
    Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, Zubin Mehta
    Menuhin Festival Orchestra, Yehudi Menuhin
    Sinfonia Varsovia, Yehudi Menuhin
    Les Musiciens du Louvre, Marc Minkowski
    Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Riccardo Muti
    Netherlands Chamber Orchestra, Gordan Nikolic
    Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Roger Norrington
    London Classical Players, Roger Norrington
    Bamberger Symphoniker, Jonathan Nott
    Real Filharmonia de Galicia, Helmuth Rilling
    Budapest Symphony Orchestra, Tamás Vásáry
    Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra, George Vass
    Radio Symphony Orchestra Saarbrucken, Marcello Viotti
    Kölner Rundfunk-Sinfonie-orchester, Gunter Wand
    South West German Radio Symphony Orchestra, Hans Zender
    Tonhalle Orchestra Zurich, David Zinman
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 28-02-15, 14:47.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    #2
    It was Antony Hopkins who introduced me to this work in his "Talking About Music" series. I loved the slow movement, and was struck by its resemblance to the A flat Impromptu Op.142, no. 2.

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    • Pabmusic
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      • May 2011
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      #3
      I see from Amazon that this mono recording is still available:

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20572

        #4
        Do you happen to know which orchestra is playing? In the meantime, I'll just add the conductor's name to the list.

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        • Pabmusic
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          • May 2011
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          #5
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Do you happen to know which orchestra is playing? In the meantime, I'll just add the conductor's name to the list.
          It's the LPO. It was recorded in 1959 and I'm wrong in calling it mono.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20572

            #6
            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
            It's the LPO. It was recorded in 1959 and I'm wrong in calling it mono.
            Many thanks.

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            • HighlandDougie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3106

              #7
              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
              I see from Amazon that this mono recording is still available:

              http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Conduc...1857692&sr=8-1
              And very good it is, too. I don't think that the original recording (made for Concert Hall) was ever the highest of fidelities but in its remastered form it is clear and quite bright. I bought this compilation for the César Franck Symphony and was very pleased to discover this Schubert 4th. Anyone who likes Boult's Schumann is likely to warm to his affectionate but no-nonsense approach - different to Beecham but just as enjoyable

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              • vinteuil
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                • Nov 2010
                • 12935

                #8
                Many thanks as always to Alpensinfonie for the research that has gone in to the production of the list.

                I don't know whether the Frans Brüggen / Orchestra of the 18th Century on philips is still available.

                I like it a lot.

                There is / was also a Menuhin / Menuhin Festival Orchestra on EMI. Didn't do much for me...

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                • aeolium
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3992

                  #9
                  There is also István Kertész with the VPO - may be only available as part of a complete set (which I much enjoyed).

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20572

                    #10
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                    I don't know whether the Frans Brüggen / Orchestra of the 18th Century on philips is still available.

                    I like it a lot.

                    There is / was also a Menuhin / Menuhin Festival Orchestra on EMI. Didn't do much for me...
                    Both of these seem to be available and there's a second Menuhin version too.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20572

                      #11
                      Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                      There is also István Kertész with the VPO - may be only available as part of a complete set (which I much enjoyed).
                      Fancy me forgetting that one. It's the only one I possess.
                      List duly amended.

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                      • jayne lee wilson
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        #12
                        Always felt that Hans Zender's cycle on Hanssler never got anything like its due (I much prefer it to Colin Davis in Dresden), and it includes a great 4th!

                        Oh, and there's another Harnoncourt (live) reading from 1996, with the Berlin Phil on Teldec, c/w Schumann's 4th. The latter is the more frequently heard revision - Harnoncourt gave us the original 4th with his terrific COE Schumann cycle.
                        The two Berlin 4ths are excellent!

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                        • PJPJ
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Eduard van Beinum's fine Decca recording with the Concertgebouw is in this box:

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #14
                            Boult for me ! Abbado a close second.

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                            • verismissimo
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2957

                              #15
                              Think I've only ever heard VPO/Kertesz in this symphony, so Saturday will be a revelation.

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