BaL 13.10.12 - Bach's Concerto for 2 Violins in D minor

**ferneyhoughgeliebte** · 05-10-12, 19:44

Glorious, glorious work: the second movement is one of the most sensuous, even erotic, pieces that JSB ever wrote. I have Enescu & Menuhin and Manze & Prodger: both exquisite - but my Kuijken & van Dael (possibly my favourite) disc seems to have vanished from my shelves!

**Tony Halstead** · 05-10-12, 19:50

Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

Glorious, glorious work: the second movement is one of the most sensuous, even erotic, pieces that JSB ever wrote. I have Enescu & Menuhin and Manze & Prodger: both exquisite - but my Kuijken & van Dael (possibly my favourite) disc seems to have vanished from my shelves!

Hmmm... how can ANY Bach work ever be described as 'erotic'?

**ferneyhoughgeliebte** · 05-10-12, 20:02

Originally posted by waldhorn View Post

Hmmm... how can ANY Bach work ever be described as 'erotic'?

Oh, listen to it! The sensuous, interweaving lines, the undulating lower parts, the caressing interplay between the two soloists, the throbbing climaxes ...

**gurnemanz** · 05-10-12, 20:06

Originally posted by waldhorn View Post

Hmmm... how can ANY Bach work ever be described as 'erotic'?

You can have Gidon Kremer playing with himself. It's rather good.

Amazon.co.uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bach-J-S-Concertos-Concerto-Partita/dp/B000024SOJ

**Thropplenoggin** · 05-10-12, 20:18

Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

9.30am Building a Library
Nicholas Anderson with a personal recommendation from recordings of Bach's Concerto for 2 violins.

Is this BWV 1043 or BWV 1060? They're both listed as Concerto for 2 Violins in D Minor.

In any case, I only have Julia Fischer. I dare say I was swung by the alluring pose she strikes on the cover

I expect they're are probably far more profound versions out there. Therefore, I'm looking forward to this one...

EDIT:

Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

...but my Kuijken & van Dael (possibly my favourite) disc seems to have vanished from my shelves!

Bach, J.S.: Violin Concertos BWV 1041-1043

http://open.spotify.com/album/0jfgSWeQ09EUTYZ1Tmn5g3

Johann Sebastian Bach · Album · 1981 · 9 songs

**Eine Alpensinfonie** · 05-10-12, 20:27

Um. A list at last, but I find it hard to believe that so many players have overdubbed themselves.

**vinteuil** · 05-10-12, 20:29

Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post

Is this BWV 1043 or BWV 1060? They're both listed as Concerto for 2 Violins in D Minor.

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BWV 1043 is the D minor concerto for two violins
BWV 1062 is Bach's reworking of this as a concerto for two harpsichords, in C minor
BWV 1060 is another C minor concerto for two harpsichords, probably a reworking by Bach of a now-lost concerto for oboe and violin

**Thropplenoggin** · 05-10-12, 20:38

Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

BWV 1043 is the D minor concerto for two violins
BWV 1062 is Bach's reworking of this as a concerto for two harpsichords, in C minor
BWV 1060 is another C minor concerto for two harpsichords, probably a reworking by Bach of a now-lost concerto for oboe and violin

Thanks, vinteuil. But if you click here and scroll down to the samples, you'll see why I'm still confused!

**Thropplenoggin** · 05-10-12, 20:43

Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post

Um. A list at last, but I find it hard to believe that so many players have overdubbed themselves.

Thanks, EA. The overdubbing does seem like the last word in vanity, doesn't it? And surely contravenes every principle in the HIPP tome!

**vinteuil** · 05-10-12, 20:44

Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post

Thanks, vinteuil. But if you click here and scroll down to the samples, you'll see why I'm still confused!

... on that CD, Andrew Manze and Rachel Podger perform a reconstruction of the BWV 1060 two harpsichord concerto in C minor as an attempt to imagine what an 'original' two violin concerto (in D minor) might have sounded like - an attempt to reverse Bach's reworking of BWV 1043 into BWV 1062. Simples!

**Eine Alpensinfonie** · 05-10-12, 20:45

Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post

Thanks, EA. The overdubbing does seem like the last word in vanity, doesn't it? And surely contravenes every principle in the HIPP tome!

True, but I don't get too upset about that.

**Thropplenoggin** · 05-10-12, 20:48

Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

... on that CD, Andrew Manze and Rachel Podger perform a reconstruction of the BWV 1060 two harpsichord concerto in C minor as an attempt to imagine what an 'original' two violin concerto (in D minor) might have sounded like - an attempt to reverse Bach's reworking of BWV 1043 into BWV 1062. Simples!

Much obliged for your patient and thorough explanation, sir.

**amateur51** · 05-10-12, 20:55

Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

Glorious, glorious work: the second movement is one of the most sensuous, even erotic, pieces that JSB ever wrote. I have Enescu & Menuhin and Manze & Prodger: both exquisite - but my Kuijken & van Dael (possibly my favourite) disc seems to have vanished from my shelves!

Wonderful, ferney!

**ferneyhoughgeliebte** · 05-10-12, 21:01

Originally posted by amateur51 View Post

Wonderful, ferney!

BaL 13.10.12 - Bach's Concerto for 2 Violins in D minor

BaL 13.10.12 - Bach's Concerto for 2 Violins in D minor

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