BaL 29.09.12 Janacek's 2 string quartets

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  • Don Petter

    #16
    Tha Talich recording of both quartets, on Caliope, seems to be nla, but there is their Quartet Number 1 available on Alto:



    (Not sure if this is the same recording as the Caliope.)


    Once you start, it's difficult to stop! MDT also currently lists pairs of the two quartets on CD by the Bennewitz, Melos, Dolezal and Vanbrugh String Quartets.
    Last edited by Guest; 21-09-12, 19:57. Reason: More appearing!

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    • verismissimo
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      • Nov 2010
      • 2957

      #17
      Lindsays seems to be available:

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      • LeMartinPecheur
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        • Apr 2007
        • 4717

        #18
        I discovered these works via a Janacek Quartet LP I picked up in 1972 for 50p on Classics for Pleasure. I think it was so cheap because the licence agreement from Supraphon had expired. Smashing disc still.

        Since then it's been supplemented on CD by the Gabrielis (not too sure why - don't rate it very much) and the Dantes. I've heard them do magificent live performances and had high hopes of the disc. The performances are great if you can penetrate the recording (Meridian). It seems to me to be oddly 'dark', bass-heavy, and it simply doesn't do justice to the quartet's usual bright, clear violins. Wish their usual label, Hyperion, had recorded them But others may hear it differently, and the performances are very well worth while. Does anyone else know this disc?
        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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        • gurnemanz
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          • Nov 2010
          • 7451

          #19
          Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
          Once you start, it's difficult to stop! MDT also currently lists pairs of the two quartets on CD by the Bennewitz, Melos, Dolezal and Vanbrugh String Quartets.
          Melos are serious contenders, I'd have thought, and now on HM's bargain label.

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          • aeolium
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            • Nov 2010
            • 3992

            #20
            I too am certainly looking forward to this BaL, but I'm slightly puzzled why the two quartets are being reviewed together. Don't they each merit separate consideration?

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            • gurnemanz
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7451

              #21
              We went to a very rewarding concert last year where Ensemble 360 played the Intimate Letters Quartet and Timothy West as Janacek read a selection of the letters.

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              • Roehre

                #22
                Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                ....but I'm slightly puzzled why the two quartets are being reviewed together. Don't they each merit separate consideration?
                I should think so. Puzzling decision it is IMO.

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                • amateur51

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


                  ... and welcome back, ammy: hope the holiday was utterly enjoyable!
                  Triffically so thanks, ferney

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Do any, besides the Quatuor Diotima, use the new Barenreiter urtext score, or include a reconstruction of the version of number 2 with a viola d'amore part?
                    Been listening to the two versions of the second quartet as recorded by Quatuor Diotima today. They really are each quite different to the 'standard' version. There's an amusing slip in the English version of the programme notes for the disc. At one point the viola d'amore is referred to as a "viola da gamba". Big mistake, what? I am looking forward to hearing what is made of these recordings next week.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      At one point the viola d'amore is referred to as a "viola da gamba". Big mistake, what?
                      Obviously a "leg person"!
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #26
                        Another fine recording currently missing from the catalogue is that from the Belcea Quartet. Must dig mine out again:

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                        • makropulos
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          Do any, besides the Quatuor Diotima, use the new Barenreiter urtext score, or include a reconstruction of the version of number 2 with a viola d'amore part?
                          Supraphon's "Janacek Unknown IV" includes a version with viola d'amore too, played by members of the Kubin Quartet and John Anthony Calabrese.

                          To be honest, I don't think it works except as a nicely symbolic idea that clearly appealed to Janacek. But he didn't think it worked either - having heard it played to him in private once he decided to stick with a conventional quartet formation, with fabulous results.

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                          • gurnemanz
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            ... Many thanks for this.

                            I don't know whether the Gabrieli qtt is still available - their 1977 recording of both quartets was included in the decca 5 CD box of Janáček chamber music & orchestral works.
                            I have that excellent box containing the Gabrielis' version which seems to be still available.
                            Janácek: Chamber & Orchestral Works. Decca: 4755232. Buy download online. Paul Crossley (piano), Gabrieli String Quartet, Kenneth Sillito (violin) Paul Crossley (piano), Eva Urbanová (soprano), Marta Benackova (mezzo-soprano), Vladimir Bogachov (tenor), Richard Novák (bass), Thomas Trotter (organ) London Sinfonietta and Wiener Philharmoniker, Wiener Philharmoniker,...

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #29
                              There is also a recording by the Brodsky Quartet which seems to be available, and to have received at least one enthusiastic review.

                              Discover Janácek: String Quartets No. 1 & 2; Pohádka; Violin Sonata by The Brodsky Quartet released in 2006. Find album reviews, track lists, credits, awards and more at AllMusic.


                              It is claimed to be available (in stock) direct from amazon.co.uk for £7.37 including p&p.

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                              • Thropplenoggin

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                There is also a recording by the Brodsky Quartet which seems to be available, and to have received at least one enthusiastic review.

                                Discover Janácek: String Quartets No. 1 & 2; Pohádka; Violin Sonata by The Brodsky Quartet released in 2006. Find album reviews, track lists, credits, awards and more at AllMusic.


                                It is claimed to be available (in stock) direct from amazon.co.uk for £7.37 including p&p.
                                From the Allmusic review:

                                "...the second called "Intimate Letters" after the supremely sensual missives the composer wrote a young married mother with whom he was smitten, are truly, deeply, profoundly sensual works, and the Brodsky tears into the music like sailors on shore leave."
                                Nice simile.

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