BaL 21.06.14 - Elgar's Cello Concerto

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  • Rue Dubac
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    • Mar 2013
    • 48

    #31
    Rostropovich, with Haydn and Saint-Saens, LSO, Rozhdestvensky, BBC Legends, recorded 1965. No idea if still available.

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    • Pabmusic
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      • May 2011
      • 5537

      #32
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      Whilst I share the reservations about this work of other contributors to this Thread*...
      * = it's my least favourite of the Elgar works I love. (Read that sentence a couple of times - it makes sense: honest!)
      Yes, the cello concerto is 'different', and not a particularly easy piece to get to know. I now link it firmly with the three chamber works (they are all almost exact contemporaries) rather than with any of the earlier orchestral works.

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      • mikealdren
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        • Nov 2010
        • 1199

        #33
        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
        Du Pre,Barbirolli.
        The sheer emotion and burning intensity just kills me.
        If not the best,certainly up there in the top one.
        Sadly for me, it's over the top. I prefer some noble restraint in Elgar, an intensity that is below the surface and somehow burns even hotter. It's a quality that Boult captured so often

        Mike

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        • Beef Oven!
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          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #34
          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
          Du Pre,Barbirolli.
          The sheer emotion and burning intensity just kills me.
          If not the best,certainly up there in the top one.

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          • Barbirollians
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11671

            #35
            I do not get the demand for reticence in Elgar . It seems to me that his life and times imposed reticence on his life not his music . As he famously said of the violin concerto that it was too emotional but I love it . Stiff upper lip Elgar just does not work for me . The Tortelier/Boult Elgar cello concerto being a striking example . It sounds like a serious overreaction to the du Pre/Barbirolli.

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            • mikealdren
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              • Nov 2010
              • 1199

              #36
              It's interesting how we can react differently to the same music and look for such different things in performance. That's one of the things that makes music so endlessly fascinating.

              I've just listened to YoYo Ma's Elgar, the only version I have on CD and at too many points he doesn't seem to know what to do with the music. It has some very good moments but he keeps losing the plot!

              Mike
              Last edited by mikealdren; 14-06-14, 15:33.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #37
                I have P[aul Watkins, Du Pre(c/w Sea PicturesLSO/Barbs.) and others.....
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #38
                  How do we pronounce Yo-Yo (Ma)? Is the emphasis on the first syllable, or the second, or is it without emphasis?

                  I am only confident in pronouncing English, Italian, Turkish and Greek names.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26524

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    How do we pronounce Yo-Yo (Ma)? Is the emphasis on the first syllable, or the second, or is it without emphasis?
                    He said "Hi I'm Yo-Yo" with four equal stresses, when I met him

                    So I guess that's your answer
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Beef Oven!
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                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      He said "Hi I'm Yo-Yo" with four equal stresses, when I met him

                      So I guess that's your answer
                      Thanks. Why the whistle-face? are you pulling my leg?

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                      • Nick Armstrong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26524

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        Thanks. Why the whistle-face? are you pulling my leg?
                        No was just trying to be nonchalant about a slightly shameless name-drop...
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Beef Oven!
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                          • Sep 2013
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          No was just trying to be nonchalant about a slightly shameless name-drop...
                          Yes, I think name-dropping is distasteful. I was saying the same thing to Camilla Parker Bowles, just the other day.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26524

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            Yes, I think name-dropping is distasteful. I was saying the same thing to Camilla Parker Bowles, just the other day.
                            He shoots, he scores!!
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Beef Oven!
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                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              He shoots, he scores!!
                              Great assist, btw.

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                              • frankwm

                                #45
                                The Navarra was already electronic-stereo in the PYE 1974 release (GSGC 15005) - previously it was GSGC 14057 in 1966 (with a mono GGC) - but that could've been an undeclared transcription as the coupling was the same - Enigma: true stereo.

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