BaL 21.06.14 - Elgar's Cello Concerto

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  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7739

    #61
    I wonder if the du Pre version played was the standard cd or its latest SACD version.

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    • makropulos
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1669

      #62
      A recording of the Elgar with "Fournier and Szell" ? More like Fournier and Alfred Wallenstein.

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #63
        Originally posted by makropulos View Post
        A recording of the Elgar with "Fournier and Szell" ? More like Fournier and Alfred Wallenstein.
        Indeed. Someone seems not to know their Dvorak from their Elgar.

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        • MLF

          #64
          Interesting. 1965 Du Pre/ Barbirolli was predictably the historic choice; Truls Mork with the City Of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra and Sir Simon Rattle the overall winner. Did not see that one coming - but have obediently ordered the Mork (it is available for less than £3 on Amazon).

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          • amateur51

            #65
            My enjoyment of Helen wallace's well-done BaL was marred by a phone call just before the summibng up and decision-making so I'll gladly relisten.


            I was pleased by the approach that she took and the huge number of recordings that she played - very informative, well done

            Was this Helen Wallace's first appearance on BaL? I thought she was very good
            Last edited by Guest; 21-06-14, 10:00. Reason: trypos + Helen Wallace

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            • visualnickmos
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3609

              #66
              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post


              Was this Helen Wallace's first appearance on BaL? I thought she was very good
              Yes - I concur. Certainly a baptism of fire, with this piece, but Helen Wallace sailed through. Well done to her. I'm not convinced that I'll rush out and buy the recommendation, although I'll have to listen to it in its entirety to make an informed decision. Something about Rattle I can't quite 'get'....
              Last edited by visualnickmos; 21-06-14, 10:38. Reason: word missed out!

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              • DracoM
                Host
                • Mar 2007
                • 12962

                #67
                Truls Mork's interpretation has integrity and presence, and is finely played. Totally justified top choice.

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                • seabright
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 625

                  #68
                  Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                  I have Rostropovich in the Elgar on a Revelation CD - with the Moscow Phil under Natan Rakhlin from November 1958. Presumably from a broadcast. I'll give it a spin.
                  I have Rostropovich's Elgar too, also with the Moscow Philharmonic but conducted by Rozhdestvensky, from a 'live' broadcast in 1964 on 'Russian Disc.' It's not mentioned in the message #1 listing, so presumably it doesn't count. The couplings are Respighi's 'Adagio con Variazione' and the Milhaud Cello Concerto No. 1.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26523

                    #69
                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    a phone call just before the summibng up
                    Was it Bbm on the line?

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • BBMmk2
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20908

                      #70
                      Originally posted by MLF View Post
                      Interesting. 1965 Du Pre/ Barbirolli was predictably the historic choice; Truls Mork with the City Of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra and Sir Simon Rattle the overall winner. Did not see that one coming - but have obediently ordered the Mork (it is available for less than £3 on Amazon).
                      Really?Bargain!! must get.I have the Du Pre/LSO/Barbirolli, paul Watkins, BBCPO/Davis(A). But I think I can find room for Truls Mork too!!
                      Don’t cry for me
                      I go where music was born

                      J S Bach 1685-1750

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11671

                        #71
                        Gracious- how come du Pre is historic choice when one listens to the SACD it does not sound historic at all !!!

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          #72
                          Originally posted by MLF View Post
                          Interesting. 1965 Du Pre/ Barbirolli was predictably the historic choice;
                          Personally, I think it's ludicrous to think of a top-class stereo recording as historic. The only grounds for making this distinction should be poorly recorded or mono sound. From 1958 onwards, studio recordings have hardly improved at all.

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                          • MLF

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Gracious- how come du Pre is historic choice when one listens to the SACD it does not sound historic at all !!!
                            That thought occurred to me also! The Beatrice Harrison/ Elgar recording is my go to historic recording. I suppose Du Pre had to get in there somewhere - and yet another BAL settling on Du Pre would have been rather dull. Perhaps they should have created a "best recent recording" winner?

                            BTW fully agree with the praise for this morning's reviewer - top notch stuff.

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                            • seabright
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 625

                              #74
                              Originally posted by makropulos View Post
                              A recording of the Elgar with "Fournier and Szell" ? More like Fournier and Alfred Wallenstein.
                              Pierre Fournier and the Berlin Philharmonic under Alfred Wallenstein on DG from 1967 was presumably one of the first non-British recordings of the work.

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                #75
                                I thought that it was perhaps a slip of the tongue, and she intended not "historical" but "hysterical".

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