BaL 9.06.12 - Dvorak's Cello Concerto (merged threads)

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  • PJPJ
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1461

    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Probably unwise - look at what happens every time the fascist party member Goodall is mentioned !
    It is unwise - Goodall was not only a Nazi sympathiser but also a holocaust denier, and it is this second attribute which I find disgusting.

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    • Roehre

      Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
      Clemens Krauss was Austrian, having been born in Vienna, though during WWII that could be considered as part of Germany after its annexation.
      I am afraid one Adolf Hitler was Austrian too.....
      Apart from the fact that in Austria the NSöAP was as active as the NSDAP in Germany itself.

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      • Pabmusic
        Full Member
        • May 2011
        • 5537

        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        Clemens Krauss was Austrian, having been born in Vienna, though during WWII that could be considered as part of Germany after its annexation.
        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        I guess the original mention of Ansermet (msg 113) has now been corrected. He was, of course, Swiss.
        I don't follow you. Richard Tarleton was not listing German conductors, rather those who worked in Berlin during the Nazi era. Austria was absorbed into greater Germany, as a province, in 1938.

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        • PJPJ
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1461

          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
          .....I think this may be the start of a separate thread
          Well, I have tried, and will persevere.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26575

            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Fournier/BPO/Szell.

            Excellent choice.
            FYI (as mentioned on the BaL secrets thread) the French critics on France Musique in their 2009 blind tasting programme "La Tribune" also chose this version as head and shoulders above the competition...
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11773

              I love it but I would not call it head and shoulders above .

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11773

                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                I love it but I would not call it head and shoulders above .
                Having listened to it again today ... I have decided I might be wrong - it is a stupendous account .

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                • visualnickmos
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3615

                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  Having listened to it again today ... I have decided I might be wrong - it is a stupendous account .
                  It is indeed, (and his Elgar isn't bad, either!)

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11773

                    Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                    The Thauer/Macal recording is my absolute favourite, as released on a DGG LP in the early 1970s.
                    That one and Rostropovich/Karajan (on DGG) are the only ones in my collection, even though this concerto -and certainly the middle mvt- is for me one of the most cherished and treasured works.
                    Thauer's recording has been re-released expensively on a small German label and I got a copy through Amazon - but for the very positive mentions on here I would never have thought to buy it .

                    It is marvellous - there is something about her tone that absolutely pulls on the heart strings and it is superbly accompanied . Various details in the orchestration I am hearing as never before .

                    I might say I am not all that surprised after hearing it that you felt you did not need many other performances . It has gone right up to the top table in my numerous recordings of the piece.

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                    • Roehre

                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      Thauer's recording has been re-released expensively on a small German label and I got a copy through Amazon - but for the very positive mentions on here I would never have thought to buy it .

                      It is marvellous - there is something about her tone that absolutely pulls on the heart strings and it is superbly accompanied . Various details in the orchestration I am hearing as never before .

                      I might say I am not all that surprised after hearing it that you felt you did not need many other performances . It has gone right up to the top table in my numerous recordings of the piece.
                      Many thanks Barbirollians

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11773

                        Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                        Many thanks Barbirollians
                        Someone has now uploaded the complete performance on to You Tube for anyone interested in hearing Thauer's account.

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                        • Richard Tarleton

                          This has been garnering good reviews. Questionable use of wind machine though.

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                          • Lento
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 646

                            Am rather rather enjoying the newish Isserlis recording, which has some interesting extras, such as the alternative ending.

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                            • richardfinegold
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 7756

                              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                              This has been garnering good reviews. Questionable use of wind machine though.
                              It looks like Dvorak as played by Batman

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26575

                                Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                                Questionable use of wind machine though.
                                Wind machine + Dvorak Cello Concerto = "Did someone record the Richard Strauss re-orchestration"?

                                But clicking the link, I see what you mean.

                                Looks like La Derham's hair presenting that Peter Donohoe Ogdon tribute concert....






                                PS: great use of the word "questionable", Richard!


                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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