BaL 12.05.12 Chopin's Mazurkas

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  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12960

    #31
    Originally posted by aeolium View Post
    Actually, as someone who isn't the slightest bit interested in the comparison process (x better than y) but enjoys listening to different interpretations, I prefer these more general discussions. And it's always good listening to David Owen-Norris as a reviewer.
    Couldn't agree more, and thus he made me listen to music I would not normally be interested in. More DON, please.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #32
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      BaL seems to be going off the boil a little with these grouped topics rather than comparisons of individual works. It's the same again next week, with Gesualdo's entire recorded output up for grabs. At least this week's discussion is finite.
      I share your concern about Gesualdo, Alpie (how can 45 mins cover the entire output adequately?) but it's a little harsh to put "The Chopin Mazurkas" in the same category: there can't be an individual BaL on each individual Mazurka, and many listeners will want to buy a complete set of the Mazurkas(/Nocturnes/Preludes/Etudes/Ballades/Scherzi etc) so it isn't unreasonable to have a programme comparing the different available complete sets?
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • ardcarp
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11102

        #33
        More DON, please.

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        • Curalach

          #34
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          many listeners will want to buy a complete set of the Mazurkas(/Nocturnes/Preludes/Etudes/Ballades/Scherzi etc) so it isn't unreasonable to have a programme comparing the different available complete sets?
          I agree and so very well done this morning.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20570

            #35
            I raise my hands in acquiescence.

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            • amateur51

              #36
              Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
              Rather think words failed there, BBM.
              BBM has a writing style all his own - akin to Les Dawson on the piano I like to think

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              • MickyD
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 4747

                #37
                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                In the exemplary 'Real Chopin' set on NIFC [Narodowy Instytut Fryderyka Chopina] the mazurkas are divvied up between -

                Ewa Poblocka
                Raul Koczalski
                Dina Yoffe
                Fou Ts'ong
                Janusz Oleniczak
                Tatiana Shebanova
                Ka Ling Colleen Lee
                Kevin Kenner
                Exemplary indeed, Vinteuil - ever since I bought this marvellous set, I have played it over and over.

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                • amateur51

                  #38
                  Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                  Exemplary indeed, Vinteuil - ever since I bought this marvellous set, I have played it over and over.
                  Thirded MickyD & vints

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26523

                    #39
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    In the exemplary 'Real Chopin' set on NIFC [Narodowy Instytut Fryderyka Chopina] the mazurkas are divvied up between -

                    Ewa Poblocka
                    Raul Koczalski
                    Dina Yoffe
                    Fou Ts'ong
                    Janusz Oleniczak
                    Tatiana Shebanova
                    Ka Ling Colleen Lee
                    Kevin Kenner

                    And yet the recommendation made was of the NIFC recording - all the mazurkas, as I understood it, played by Adam Harasiewicz (piano) - NIFC NIFCCD208-209 (2CD)

                    I think I must be missing something. I assume that the NIFC has released more than one set of the mazurkas, the above 'portmanteau' box, and the recommended complete set.

                    Is that right?

                    Anyone here listened tot he Harasiewicz set? No one above seems to have mentioned it (other than in #1), or expressed surprise at DON's recommendation.

                    I enjoyed the survey, although I don't think I shall be racing out for a complete set of these pieces.
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12788

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      In the exemplary 'Real Chopin' set on NIFC [Narodowy Instytut Fryderyka Chopina] the mazurkas are divvied up between -

                      Ewa Poblocka
                      Raul Koczalski
                      Dina Yoffe
                      Fou Ts'ong
                      Janusz Oleniczak
                      Tatiana Shebanova
                      Ka Ling Colleen Lee
                      Kevin Kenner
                      And yet the recommendation made was of the NIFC recording - all the mazurkas, as I understood it, played by Adam Harasiewicz (piano) - NIFC NIFCCD208-209 (2CD)

                      I think I must be missing something. I assume that the NIFC has released more than one set of the mazurkas, the above 'portmanteau' box, and the recommended complete set.

                      Is that right?

                      .
                      M'learned friend is right. There is the NIFC "Real Chopin" box, containing all the works, on origynalle instromentes (Erard and Pleyel). And then there is a further NIFC series (white labels rather than black) of various other Chopin recordings, mainly on modern instruments, or of "historically interesting" (mainly Polish) recordings.
                      The Harasiewicz is a twofer in this other ongoing NIFC series.

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                      • amateur51

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                        And yet the recommendation made was of the NIFC recording - all the mazurkas, as I understood it, played by Adam Harasiewicz (piano) - NIFC NIFCCD208-209 (2CD)

                        I think I must be missing something. I assume that the NIFC has released more than one set of the mazurkas, the above 'portmanteau' box, and the recommended complete set.

                        Is that right?

                        Anyone here listened tot he Harasiewicz set? No one above seems to have mentioned it (other than in #1), or expressed surprise at DON's recommendation.

                        I enjoyed the survey, although I don't think I shall be racing out for a complete set of these pieces.
                        Here's the Harasiewicz set ...



                        which is not part of The Real Chopin set, Caliban

                        Later: Ooops cross-posted with vints but we do not contrdict each other, just supplement the information - best of all worlds imho

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26523

                          #42
                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          origynalle instromentes




                          Thanks to you and ammy for clearing that up.

                          Would you still plump for the "Real" thing? It didn't get a look in with DON unless I missed it...
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Don Petter

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                            Anyone here listened tot he Harasiewicz set? No one above seems to have mentioned it (other than in #1), or expressed surprise at DON's recommendation.

                            I've had the set for quite a while (got it this time last year as a download, I think). Need to get it out and listen again - All I have to do now is find it ...

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                            • Pianorak
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3127

                              #44
                              Only just recovering from shock. I've always disliked A.H.'s Chopin Nocturnes for fairly petty and irrelevant reasons. I'm convinced (without any evidence) that Vladimir Ashkenazy received second prize at the 1955 Warsaw Competition and Harasiewicz first prize for purely political reasons.
                              However, listening to a selection of the Chopin Mazurkas this morning (while driving) I must admit they aren't too bad.
                              My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                              • amateur51

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                                Only just recovering from shock. I've always disliked A.H.'s Chopin Nocturnes for fairly petty and irrelevant reasons. I'm convinced (without any evidence) that Vladimir Ashkenazy received second prize at the 1955 Warsaw Competition and Harasiewicz first prize for purely political reasons.
                                However, listening to a selection of the Chopin Mazurkas this morning (while driving) I must admit they aren't too bad.
                                Bravo pianorak! Admissions such as this don't come easy I'm sure but they speak volumes about your honesty

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