BaL 12.05.12 Chopin's Mazurkas

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  • silvestrione
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    • Jan 2011
    • 1700

    #16
    Thanks for that link Ferneyhough...still not sure if they are the final stereo recordings, or the one before, though. Late 1950s means..?

    (AH, worked it out now, these are the first RCA set, not the final set)

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #17
      Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
      Thanks for that link Ferneyhough...still not sure if they are the final stereo recordings, or the one before, though. Late 1950s means..?

      (AH, worked it out now, these are the first RCA set, not the final set)
      The first RCA "Living Stereo" LPs were issued in 1958 (stereo recordings had been issued on reel-to-reel tape since 1955), so it's possible that some of the items in this box might be in Stereo, but most will be Mono.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11669

        #18
        I only have the stereo Rubinstein . I have some played by Ashkenazy as his Chopin was originally released in recital form.

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        • VodkaDilc

          #19
          Has anyone mentioned Primakov, recorded in 2009 on Bridge?

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          • silvestrione
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            • Jan 2011
            • 1700

            #20
            Not to be too gnomic, I hope (but I have had two glasses of wine): in the mazurkas, Ashkenazy is to Rubinstein as Kovacevich is to Pollinii in Beethoven.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #21
              Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
              Not to be too gnomic, I hope (but I have had two glasses of wine): in the mazurkas, Ashkenazy is to Rubinstein as Kovacevich is to Pollinii in Beethoven.
              But, after two glasses of wine, can you say the above sentence?
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • silvestrione
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                • Jan 2011
                • 1700

                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                But, after two glasses of wine, can you say the above sentence?

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                • verismissimo
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2957

                  #23
                  That's interesting. Say some more about all that, silvestrione.

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                  • silvestrione
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1700

                    #24
                    Well, Rubinstein goes for structure and overall character, marked rhythm, strongly shaped phrases, clearly contrasted sections. Ashkenazy is more of an interpreter, lots of interpretive ideas, wider poetic and dynamic range, with the danger of a sense of there being more imposed on the music. Similar to Kovacevich in Beethoven (though perhaps a better example is his Schubert D 960, compared with Pollini's).

                    That, in the sober light of day, is what I think I meant!

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11669

                      #25
                      Did Argerich record them all ? I have quite a few played by her but not a whole set ?

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                      • verismissimo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2957

                        #26
                        Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                        Rubinstein goes for structure and overall character, marked rhythm, strongly shaped phrases, clearly contrasted sections.
                        Thanks, silves. That must be why I'm so much enjoying listening to his 1965-66 set. Going on to a Michelangeli selection soon.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20570

                          #27
                          BaL seems to be going off the boil a little with these grouped topics rather than comparisons of individual works. It's the same again next week, with Gesualdo's entire recorded output up for grabs. At least this week's discussion is finite.

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                          • aeolium
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3992

                            #28
                            BaL seems to be going off the boil a little with these grouped topics rather than comparisons of individual works.
                            Actually, as someone who isn't the slightest bit interested in the comparison process (x better than y) but enjoys listening to different interpretations, I prefer these more general discussions. And it's always good listening to David Owen-Norris as a reviewer.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #29
                              I dor athe like DON's way of presenting these mazurkas.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • verismissimo
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 2957

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                                I dor athe like DON's way of presenting these mazurkas.
                                Rather think words failed there, BBM.

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