BaL 24.03.12 - Schubert's Piano Sonata in C minor, D.958

[Nick Armstrong]

Her vowels were often suspect

They were taken in for questioning, I believe, but were allowed out on bail

[amateur51]

They were taken in for questioning, I believe, but were allowed out on bail

Those bloomin' sus laws again, innit

[Nick Armstrong]

I'm curious about what you mean by this Don

Don does go on to explain: "I still don't know if John Ogden 'really did' or 'rarely did' something or other. (Her rendering of 'music' turned it into 'muzak' ..."

HS does have some twisted vowels, it's true. There's another lady who sometimes does CD Review who has rather similar quality of voice production (I can't remember her name). It's a slightly strangulated tone (often with a weak 'r') that I associate with a certain kind of rather scholarly young woman who has been educated at Newnham College, Cambridge.

[amateur51]

Don does go on to explain: "I still don't know if John Ogden 'really did' or 'rarely did' something or other. (Her rendering of 'music' turned it into 'muzak' ..."

HS does have some twisted vowels, it's true. There's another lady who sometimes does CD Review who has rather similar quality of voice production (I can't remember her name). It's a slightly strangulated tone (often with a weak 'r') that I associate with a certain kind of rather scholarly young woman who has been educated at Newnham College, Cambridge.

You can't mean Hilary Finch, surely

To my ears, she always sounds ... as tho she .... has a really important .... point to make .... if only she could find her notes

[Nick Armstrong]

You can't mean Hilary Finch, surely

To my ears, she always sounds ... as tho she .... has a really important .... point to make .... if only she could find her notes

No the other one is another earnest sounding younger woman, called Sarah something, I think.

I can't find a biography for Harriet Smith. "Where did she school?" (to echo Uncle Monty's enquiry of Withnail) - can anyone find out?

[amateur51]

No the other one is another earnest sounding younger woman, called Sarah something, I think.

I can't find a biography for Harriet Smith. "Where did she school?" (to echo Uncle Monty's enquiry of Withnail) - can anyone find out?

One of the Shropshire somethings, do you think Caliban

Harriet Smith was Emma Woodhouse's young friend, surely

[Nick Armstrong]

One of the Shropshire somethings, do you think Caliban

Harriet Smith was Emma Woodhouse's young friend, surely

[Pabmusic]

Bit of a risk on this Board,I know but do you mean rolling her 'r's, Pab?

Hi, Ams. Not 'r's rolling, but 'r's pronouncing. Car pronounced 'car' (with a definite 'r'), rather than 'ca', which is the usual pronunciation in RP/London/East Midlands/East Anglia and most of the north of England now. Harriet Smith reminds me a little of Pam Ayres, which is why I'd plump first for somewhere round Oxfordshire.

[amateur51]

Hi, Ams. Not 'r's rolling, but 'r's pronouncing. Car pronounced 'car' (with a definite 'r'), rather than 'ca', which is the usual pronunciation in RP/London/East Midlands/East Anglia and most of the north of England now. Harriet Smith reminds me a little of Pam Ayres, which is why I'd plump first for somewhere round Oxfordshire.

Gotcha Pabs! - many thanks for the clarification

[kernelbogey]

This discussion of HS's vowels reminds me slightly of the parody (by Bernard Shaw I think) of a critique of a passage in Shakespeare - 'To be or not to be', IIRC - in music-critic-speak 'he moves through the modulation to a restatement of the original idea' etc.

But broadcasters are cruelly exposed to our observation of their language. Just like any soloist.

[JFLL]

Harriet Smith was Emma Woodhouse's young friend, surely

Indeed -- but 'Who can think of Miss Smith when Miss Woodhouse is near?' asks the ghastly vicar. Now if only we had Emma Woodhouse presenting concerts instead of Katie Derham and all the Sarahs! (Do I detect the germ of a new thread here? Which fictional character would you most like to hear on R3? ....)

[amateur51]

Indeed -- but 'Who can think of Miss Smith when Miss Woodhouse is near?' asks the ghastly vicar. Now if only we had Emma Woodhouse presenting concerts instead of Katie Derham and all the Sarahs!

triffic stuff, JFLL

[JFLL]

Sorry, ams , you forestalled my edit! See new last sentence.

[amateur51]

Sorry, ams , you forestalled my edit! See new last sentence.

Even more splendid, JFLL - we'll have to keep our ears peeled () in case R3 picks this one up & runs with it

[JFLL]

........... in case R3 picks this one up & runs with it

You mean like Uchida at the end of D 958?