BaL 12.11.11 - Fauré: Nocturnes

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    BaL 12.11.11 - Fauré: Nocturnes

    9.30 Building a Library: Stephen Plaistow with a personal recommendation from the available recordings of Faure's Nocturnes

    Available versions:

    Paul Crossley
    Jean-Claude Pennetier
    Stefan Irmer
    Charles Owen
    Jean-Paul Sevilla
    David Lively
    Jean Martin
    Jet Röling
    Germaine Thyssens-Valentin
    Grant Johannesen
    Jean-Philippe Collard
    Jean Hubeau
    Kathryn Stott
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 28-02-15, 19:52.
  • Nick Armstrong
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 26572

    #2
    This is very welcome indeed It should be a classic, with not too many runners and riders, and the splendid and hugely experienced Mr Plaistow in charge

    I still find these elusive pieces. As an unconditional fan of Fauré's chamber music with piano, I've never been able to love the Nocturnes, despite very recently acquiring, thanks to prompting on these boards, the complete set with Collard in its über-cheap Brilliant Classics manifestation http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faure-Piano-...0395786&sr=1-1. I'm pretty sure that will fare well in the survey, sounds great. But I have yet to be seduced by the music. Some pointers by Stephen Plaistow will be helpful.

    Really looking forward to this BAL
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #3
      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      ... I've never been able to love the Nocturnes, despite very recently acquiring, thanks to prompting on these boards, the complete set with Collard in its über-cheap Brilliant Classics manifestation http://www.amazon.co.uk/Faure-Piano-...0395786&sr=1-1.
      Something of a gestalt image on the cover of that Collard Fauré box as illustrated on the page linked to. My first interpretation was of an oil can's spout pouring its content into the lower reaches of the keyboard.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26572

        #4
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Something of a gestalt image on the cover of that Collard Fauré box as illustrated on the page linked to. My first interpretation was of an oil can's spout pouring its content into the lower reaches of the keyboard.
        I now see what you mean but hadn't noticed it before - I shan't see it in the same way from now on...
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Don Petter

          #5
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post

          I still find these elusive pieces.
          So did I until I heard the recordings of Germaine Thyssens-Valentin. Everything suddenly falls into place and sounds 'absolutely right'. So it's no contest for me.

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          • Don Petter

            #6
            I don't know how we currently define 'available' but I see that Jean-Michel Damase's recordings on Accord can still be downloaded from Amazon France.

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26572

              #7
              Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
              So did I until I heard the recordings of Germaine Thyssens-Valentin. Everything suddenly falls into place and sounds 'absolutely right'. So it's no contest for me.
              Damn the FoR3 forum!!!! Bloody expensive !! Shall at least await the BAL, let's see what Germaine looks like trotting round the paddock.
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • silvestrione
                Full Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1722

                #8
                Originally posted by Don Petter View Post
                So did I until I heard the recordings of Germaine Thyssens-Valentin. Everything suddenly falls into place and sounds 'absolutely right'. So it's no contest for me.
                I had exactly the same experience, Don. I have all three of her Faure discs and they are special.

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                • verismissimo
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2957

                  #9
                  I appear only to have five of the Nocturnes: Albert Ferber recorded by Ted Perry on LP with rather poor surfaces for Saga in the 1970s. So I'm definitely in the market.

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11751

                    #10
                    GVT must be a short priced favourite - Michael Oliver raved about her Faure recordings in Gramophone when Testament first reissued them . She just gets inside this enigmatic music like no other in my experience .
                    Last edited by Barbirollians; 09-11-11, 23:31.

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                    • Martin

                      #11
                      It has to be Kathryn Stott.

                      It may be elusive repertoire, but it's well worth the investment of repeated listenings.

                      For anyone who thinks Faure is all about Dolly and the Requiem, prepare to be amazed.

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                      • verismissimo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2957

                        #12
                        Anyone ever heard these Nocturnes (written through Faure's composing life) played live as a set? Wonder how it works?

                        Very much looking forward to hearing the very excellent Mr Plaistow.

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                        • antongould
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 8831

                          #13
                          IMHO opinion this is a joy - bringing pieces I don't know to life.

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                          • ardcarp
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11102

                            #14
                            Seems you picked the winner there, Silvestrione. I had never heard of this recording before, nor indeed the artist (to my great shame). The playing is just incredible. And the slightly mellower piano sound (probably partly the old recording) seems to suit Faure's transparent textures rather well. And thank God SP/AMcG didn't have someone phoning in to say they heard Faure's Requiem in the bath when they were four.

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                            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 9173

                              #15
                              sound quality may be a bit of an issue but price is not for the lady's complete faure works for piano here


                              excellent programme for the reasons given above .... 'no gloss' at all eh ...
                              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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