BaL 17.09.11 - Haydn: Symphony no. 100 "Military"

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  • Tony Halstead
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    • Nov 2010
    • 1717

    #16
    Not 'lots', a few:
    94 ('Surprise') & 95 coupled with the original version of the L. Mozart 'Toy symphony, in G rather than C : Nimbus NI 5126
    31 ( 'Hornsignal') with a couple of those rather dubious horn concertos: NI 5190

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    • vinteuil
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12955

      #17
      ... many thanks. I'll get my hunting gear

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      • verismissimo
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        • Nov 2010
        • 2957

        #18
        Thanks for the HIP nominations.

        How superb Beecham and his RPO are in this symphony!

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #19
          If I might add, sir Colin Davis and the RCO!!
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • MickyD
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            • Nov 2010
            • 4832

            #20
            There was also a AAM/Hogwood disc of the Military and London symphonies, long before the orchestra got under way with their tragically incomplete cycle.

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            • MickyD
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              • Nov 2010
              • 4832

              #21
              Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
              Not 'lots', a few:
              94 ('Surprise') & 95 coupled with the original version of the L. Mozart 'Toy symphony, in G rather than C : Nimbus NI 5126
              31 ( 'Hornsignal') with a couple of those rather dubious horn concertos: NI 5190
              Yes, I am very fond of these discs, well worth seeking out.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #22
                Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                There was also a AAM/Hogwood disc of the Military and London symphonies, long before the orchestra got under way with their tragically incomplete cycle.
                Wasn't that due to some internal problems?
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Tony Halstead
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1717

                  #23
                  "Internal problems?"

                  Would that be Gastric Flu of the HIP?

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                  • rauschwerk
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1482

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    Wasn't that due to some internal problems?
                    I have always believed that the CDs weren't selling in sufficient numbers, so the record company pulled the plug. The same happened with Goodman's Hyperion cycle.

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                    • MickyD
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4832

                      #25
                      You're right, Rauschwerk....there just wasn't the market for several complete cycles. At the time, Sony was also undertaking one with Bruno Weil. The really sad thing was that Hogwood's got as far as being two thirds complete (more than that, actually, if you include his previous separate recordings of 94, 96, 100 and 104). Avid collectors like myself were suddenly left up the creek, having faithfully bought each box as they were issued. I know economics rule everything, but I have never forgiven Decca for their brutal decision!

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                      • verismissimo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2957

                        #26
                        The only recorded Haydn symphonies that I find I'm completely allergic to are Bruno Weil's. I think it's partly the complete lack of harpsichords. :)

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                        • Tony Halstead
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1717

                          #27
                          Then you must be allergic to Hogwood / AAM...?
                          Surely it's not so black-and-white, this harpsichord issue?
                          A very practical line was taken in the Solomons recordings ( sadly another abandoned cycle) in which, as I understand it, Robbins Landon advised the use of a harpsichord only up to and including 26 ( Lamentatione) but not after that.

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                          • aeolium
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3992

                            #28
                            A very practical line was taken in the Solomons recordings ( sadly another abandoned cycle) in which, as I understand it, Robbins Landon advised the use of a harpsichord only up to and including 26 ( Lamentatione) but not after that.
                            Though that in itself is not as straightforward as it appears, since no 26 is misleadingly numbered, being composed around the time of the early Sturm und Drang symphonies. Also the scores for other S&D symphonies such as the Trauer and no 52 in C minor indicate a continuo. Personally, I have a soft spot for the recordings of the Little Orchestra of London under Leslie Jones, and David Blum's Esterhazy orchestra - both pre-HIPP though I think both using a harpsichord continuo.

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                            • verismissimo
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2957

                              #29
                              You're quite right, Waldhorn. My real problem with the Weils is that they are so hard driven and spotlit. Like having your teeth drilled. The absence of harpsichord only axecerbates that problem for me.

                              Jones, Blum, Solomons - all deeply joyful!

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                              • aeolium
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3992

                                #30
                                Jones, Blum, Solomons - all deeply joyful!
                                Some of those Sturm und Drang symphonies are not exactly joyful, verismissimo - but I know what you mean

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