BaL 22.04.23 - Schubert: Symphony no. 5 in B flat D. 485

[Ein Heldenleben]

Qobuz do not dynamically compress recordings, and there would be no point in doing so in their environment.

No I mean the CDs are themselves compressed -usually in the mastering process - presumably Qobuz just do a straight transfer. I find it difficult to believe that they would be given access to the original recordings some of which will be analogue.A compressed CD is still compressed no matter how Qobuz ingest it. I’ve noticed that many Philips CD’s in the nineties seemed to have more compression than the vinyl records they replaced.

[Ein Heldenleben]

No, but the files they are provided with by the record companies might just have been 'remastered' by those companies, with dynamic compression being used as part of that remastering. I very much doubt it, though.

I suspect Qobuz just ingest a commercial CD don’t they ?

[Bryn]

I suspect Qobuz just ingest a commercial CD don’t they ?

From correspondence with them, it would appear that the record companies provide them with digital files in electromagnetic form, rather than CDs from which to extract such files.

[Ein Heldenleben]

From correspondence with them, it would appear that the record companies provide them with digital files in electromagnetic form, rather than CDs from which to extract such files.

Really? - that raises the intriguing possibility that the CD quality advertised on their website might be better than the equivalent commercially available CD. By better I mean less compressed. In my journey through Schubert 5 it’s been a distinct possibility that compression has been lifting the levels of that opening pianissimo .

[Master Jacques]

The quietest opening so far as this appears to be becoming an obsession.

Like me and those minims! Both Harnoncourt and Norrington passed that test, by the way.

It begins to look as if Abbado/COE might be emerging as the consensus "benchmark", at least?

[MickyD]

It's a shame that Michi Geigg didn't include the two Overtures in the Italian Style in her Schubert cycle. I love them and were to be had as couplings on the original single releases of the Schubert symphonies by the Hanover Band on Nimbus.

[jayne lee wilson]

It's a shame that Michi Geigg didn't include the two Overtures in the Italian Style in her Schubert cycle. I love them and were to be had as couplings on the original single releases of the Schubert symphonies by the Hanover Band on Nimbus.

These are included on the 2012 DHM L'Orfeo/Gaigg release of the Schubert 5th, the one I just received the CD of from Momox....
Overtures with the DHM 5th are: D470, D556, D590 & 591, D648.

First Recordings on period instruments and as you'd expect, just as exceptional in sound and performance as the 5th itself (which is easily one of the best I've heard anywhere, sounds better every time I return...).

Want the physical product...? Get in there quick....

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B006GSRI3C?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[MickyD]

These are included on the 2012 DHM L'Orfeo/Gaigg release of the Schubert 5th, the one I just received the CD of from Momox....
Overtures with the DHM 5th are: D470, D556, D590 & 591, D648.

First Recordings on period instruments and as you'd expect, just as exceptional in sound and performance as the 5th itself (which is easily one of the best I've heard anywhere, sounds better every time I return...).

Want the physical product...? Get in there quick....
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B006GSRI3C?...roduct_details

Hey, thank you, didn't know that...think I will be tempted!

[Wolfram]

It would appear that this weeks edition of BaL has been pulled and a re-run of Carnival of the Animals from a couple of years ago has been substituted in its place. That's a bit sad.

And nothing has been flagged yet up on the Record Review page for the following Saturday 18th.

[Master Jacques]

Clearly whoever should have been doing the Schubert 5th Symphony hasn't yet had time to work through the comments on this here thread.

[Barbirollians]

Clearly whoever should have been doing the Schubert 5th Symphony hasn't yet had time to work through the comments on this here thread.

Or she has and has backed out in horror ! Hope nothing ails Ms DEvonald.

[silvestrione]

It would appear that this weeks edition of BaL has been pulled and a re-run of Carnival of the Animals from a couple of years ago has been substituted in its place. That's a bit sad.

And nothing has been flagged yet up on the Record Review page for the following Saturday 18th.

Oh dear, and I've worked quite hard on it, a piece I didn't know. I've heard Minkowski (same reservations as mentioned above), Abbado, and Haitink with the BPO, but my favourite so far is Karajan, from one of the Warner boxes. Refined and graceful playing, with Beethovenian vigour in the tuttis.

[rad]

It would appear that this weeks edition of BaL has been pulled and a re-run of Carnival of the Animals from a couple of years ago has been substituted in its place. That's a bit sad.

And nothing has been flagged yet up on the Record Review page for the following Saturday 18th.

Sunday 19th Record Review Extra says that you can listen to the BAL choice of Chopin's 2nd Piano Concerto.

[Wolfram]

Sunday 19th Record Review Extra says that you can listen to the BAL choice of Chopin's 2nd Piano Concerto.

Thank you for your excellent sleuthing, I shall look forward to this one.

[RichardB]

Oh dear, and I've worked quite hard on it

After this thread who needs the radio programme?