BaL 4.03.23 - Walton: Viola Concerto

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  • smittims
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    • Aug 2022
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    #46
    Another lovely cover was the Barbirolli Rubbra/VW disc, again of recordings first issued on 10" LPs in the previous decade.

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    • HighlandDougie
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      • Nov 2010
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      #47
      Slightly more back on thread (but not really except that Walton features on one of the releases), here they are:



      I had/have the Ireland PC and the Kurtz DSCH 10th (supplemented by the original LP, spotted going for very little)

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      • smittims
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        • Aug 2022
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        #48
        How do you like the Kurtz Shost 10, Dougie? I'm afraid I was a bit disappointed, perhaps after hearing Herbert do it.

        Th Horsley/Cameron Ireland concerto, on the other hand , is the 'classic' for me. The composer was at the sessions and advised on tempo. It was recorded in stereo but the stereo didn't appear for many years.

        Coincidentally I saw an original LP of the Menuhin Walton concertos yesterday in a charity shop in Chester.

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        • HighlandDougie
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          • Nov 2010
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          #49
          I always rather liked the Kurtz but the mono recording rather paled in comparison with HvK, especially the first recording, which, in turn, somewhat pales in the face of the stupendous 1969 Melodiya HvK in Moscow performance. But, we have strayed miles from WW's Viola Concerto ...

          Last off-topic comment from me is to say thanks for the tip about there being a stereo version of the Colin Horsley Ireland - duly ordered. Of more modern versions, I rather like the John Lenehan CD, not least for the piano pieces on it, which make for an interesting contrast with the mighty Eric Parkin.

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          • smittims
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            • Aug 2022
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            #50
            Yes, the Ireland concerto has done better than many British piano concertos over the years . I liked Piers Lane's Hyperion disc which couples it with the rarely-heard second version of the Delius concerto.

            Straying off-topic is almost a tradition here, as long as one doesn't go too far. At least we are talking about British concertos!

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            • Pulcinella
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              • Feb 2014
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              #51
              Originally posted by smittims View Post
              Yes, the Ireland concerto has done better than many British piano concertos over the years . I liked Piers Lane's Hyperion disc which couples it with the rarely-heard second version of the Delius concerto.

              Straying off-topic is almost a tradition here, as long as one doesn't go too far. At least we are talking about British concertos!
              In addition to the Horsley and BBC MM versions, I have a recording of the Ireland PC that's coupled with Rubbra's Violin concerto!

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              • smittims
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                • Aug 2022
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                #52
                Thanks for reminding me, Pulcinella. I'd even forgotten Rubbra wrote a violin concerto! But there it is, op.103 from 1959. There's a Naxos version which has had good reviews, and I have the Lyrita/Richard Itter colection recording with Endre Wolf and Rudi Schwarz, where the coupling is the Sinfonia Concertante with Rubbra himself at the piano.

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by smittims View Post
                  Thanks for reminding me, Pulcinella. I'd even forgotten Rubbra wrote a violin concerto! But there it is, op.103 from 1959. There's a Naxos version which has had good reviews, and I have the Lyrita/Richard Itter colection recording with Endre Wolf and Rudi Schwarz, where the coupling is the Sinfonia Concertante with Rubbra himself at the piano.
                  I have the Lyrita and Naxos versions as well as that Unicorn-Kanchana (Carl Pini/Melbourne SO/David Measham; Geoffrey Tozer is the pianist in the Ireland) one, but I also have a Conifer release with Tasmin Little and the RPO under Handley, the coupling being Rubbra's Viola concerto with Rivka Golani as soloist. Not a great fan of the Naxos version, though I know that the composer's son Adrian likes it and its couplings.

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                  • smittims
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                    #54
                    Hmm, sounds as if you're a Rubbra fan. If it's not stretching the off-topic envelope too much, among my small stock of 10" LPs is BLP 1029, the fifth symphony, which you will know was the first and for many years the only recording of any Rubbra symphony. Nice Sepia photo of John Barbiriolli on the sleeve, in pinstripe suit and bow-tie.

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                    • Barbirollians
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #55
                      I think that’s the performance on a Barbirolli Society cD ?

                      This BAL tomorrow hope it’s a good one .

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #56
                        Talking of British viola concertos I enjoyed that recording of the Arthur Benjamin Romantic Fantasy for violin and viola with Lorraine McAslan and Sarah Jane Bradley on Dutton - I understand the composer used to get annoyed with Heifetz and Primrose playing it too fast - I think most composers would just have been delighted they were playing their piece .

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                        • teamsaint
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #57
                          The DON has a tendency to like strict adherence to the score as a baseline, I think. Should be a clue as to his choice, for those of you who have studied it carefully.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

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                          • Pulcinella
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                            • Feb 2014
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                            #58
                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            The DON has a tendency to like strict adherence to the score as a baseline, I think. Should be a clue as to his choice, for those of you who have studied it carefully.
                            1962 edition (OUP) selling at £25.95 (Presto).
                            Might be tempted if tomorrow's BaL is a good one.

                            Sheet music for Walton, William: Concerto for Viola and Orchestra (1962): buy online. Viola/Orchestra (VLA/ORCH). Published by Oxford University Press. Composer: Walton. Editor: Wellington, Christopher.

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                            • teamsaint
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                              1962 edition (OUP) selling at £25.95 (Presto).
                              Might be tempted if tomorrow's BaL is a good one.

                              https://www.prestomusic.com/sheet-mu...orchestra-1962
                              Have this month’s Ernie numbers been announced yet ?
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Pulcinella
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                                • Feb 2014
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                                Have this month’s Ernie numbers been announced yet ?
                                Yes: I got £100, which is why I'm tempted.


                                Cheaper elsewhere though, so just ordered.
                                Last edited by Pulcinella; 03-03-23, 20:05.

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