BaL 14.01.23 - Prokofiev: Violin Concerto no. 2

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    BaL 14.01.23 - Prokofiev: Violin Concerto no. 2

    10.30 am
    Building a Library
    Ben Gernon chooses his favourite recording of Prokofiev’s Violin Concerto No 2.

    This concerto is full of glorious melodies and deserves a place in everyone’s collection. Prokofiev was on a concert tour when he wrote the piece and later wrote, “The number of places in which I wrote the Concerto shows the kind of nomadic concert tour life I led then. The main theme of the 1st movement was written in Paris, the first theme of the 2nd movement at Voronezh, the orchestration was finished in Baku and the premiere was given in Madrid.” The concerto is more conventional than Prokofiev’s early experimental works and its romantic heart has made it a perennial favourite.

    Available versions:-

    Rouben Aharonian, Russian Philharmonic Orchestra, Samuel Friedmann *
    Kristóf Baráti, Orchestra & Chorus of the Marinksy Theatre, Valéry Gergiev (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Lisa Batiashvili, Chamber Orchestra of Europe, Yannick Nézet-Séguin
    Joshua Bell, Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, Charles Dutoit *
    Pavel Berman, Orchestra della Svizzera Italiana, Andrey Boreyko
    Kyung Wha Chung, London Symphony Orchestra, André Previn
    Glenn Dicterow, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Zubin Mehta *
    James Ehnes, BBC Philharmonic, Gianandrea Noseda
    Zino Francescatti, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Dimitri Mitropoulos *
    Jennifer Frautschi, Seattle Symphony Orchestra, Gerard Schwarz *
    Vadim Gluzman, Estonian National Symphony Orchestra, Neeme Järvi (SACD)
    Augustin Hadelich, WDR Sinfonieorchester, Cristian Macelaru
    Guro Kleven Hagen, Oslo Philharmonic Orchestra, Bjarte Engeset
    Jascha Heifetz, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Sergey Koussevitzky
    Jascha Heifetz, Centennial Symphony Orchestra, Sergey Koussevitzky*
    Jascha Heifetz, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Charles Munch *
    Jascha Heifetz, Lenigrad Philharmonic Orchestra, Evgeny Mravinsky *
    Janine Jansen, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Vladimir Jurowski *
    Ladislav Jásek, Prague Symphony Orchestra, Martin Turnovský
    Leila Josefowicz, Orchestre symphonique de Montréal, Charles Dutoit *
    Gloria Justen, Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia, Ignat Solzhenitsyn *
    Mayuko Kamio, Israel Philharmonic Orchestra, Zubin Mehta *
    Mayuko Kamio, Halle Orchestra, Thomas Sanderling *
    Rudolf Koelman, Musikkollegium Winterthur, Douglas Boyd
    Leonid Kogan, London Symphony Orchestra, Basil Cameron
    Leonid Kogan, USSR State Symphony Orchestra, Kirill Kondrashin *
    Patricia Kopatchinskaja, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Vladimir Jurowski *
    Geneviève Laurenceau, Orchestre National du Capitole de Toulouse, Tugan Sokhiev *
    Anne Akiko Meyers, Radio-Sinfonie-Orchester Frankfurt, Dmitri Kitayenko *
    Stoika Milanova, Bulgarian National Radio Symphony Orchestra, Vassil Stefanov *
    Maria Milstein, Phion Orchestra, Otto Tausk
    Shlomo Mintz, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Claudio Abbado
    Lydia Mordkovitch, Royal Scottish National Orchestra, Neeme Järvi
    Viktoria Mullova, Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra, Paavo Jarvi
    Viktoria Mullova, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, André Previn *
    David Nebel, Bergische Symphoniker, Daniel Huppert
    David Oistrakh, Philharmonia Orchestra, Alceo Galliera
    Tedi Papavrami, Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra, Antoni Wit
    Itzhak Perlman, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Daniel Barenboim *
    Itzhak Perlman, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Erich Leinsdorf *
    Itzhak Perlman, BBC Symphony Orchestra, Gennady Rozhdestvensky *
    Rosanne Philippens, Sinfonieorchester St. Gallen, Otto Tausk
    Franziska Pietsch, Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Cristian Macelaru
    Michael Rabin, Kölner Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester, André Cluytens *
    Michael Rabin, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, André Vandernoot
    Vadim Repin, Hallé Orchestra, Kent Nagano *
    Ruggiero Ricci, Orchestre de la Suisse Romande, Ernest Ansermet
    Ruggiero Ricci, Orchestra of Radio Luxembourg, Louise de Froment
    Tossy Spivakovsky, New York Philharmonic, Thomas Schippers
    Gil Shaham, The Knights, Eric Jacobsen
    Gil Shaham, London Symphony Orchestra, André Previn *
    Dmitry Sitkovetsky, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis *
    Arabella Steinbacher, Russian National Orchestra, Vasily Petrenko (SACD)
    Isaac Stern, New York Philharmonic, Leonard Bernstein
    Isaac Stern, New York Philharmonic, Zubin Mehta
    Isaac Stern, Orchestre National de la Radiodiffusion Française, Charles Munch
    Isaac Stern, Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy *
    Joseph Swensen, Scottish Chamber Orchestra
    Henryk Szeryng, London Symphony Orchestra, Gennadi Rozhdestvensky
    Matthew Trusler, BBC National Orchestra of Wales, Grant Llewellyn
    Wandy Tworek, Danish Radio Symphony Orchestra, Thomas Jensen *
    Maxim Vengerov, London Symphony Orchestra, Mstislav Rostropovich *
    Ion Voicu, Hungarian State Symphony Orchestra, Sir John Barbirolli
    Jean-Pierre Wallez, Orchestre National de France, Yuri Ahronovitch *
    Wanda Wilkomirska, Philharmonia Slavonica, Henry Adolph *
    Tianwa Yang, Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra, Jun Märkl
    Scott Yoo, Paraiba Symphony Orchestra, Eleazar de Carvalho
    Frank Peter Zimmermann, Philharmonia Orchestra, Mariss Jansons

    (* = download only)
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 18-01-23, 15:31.
  • richardfinegold
    Full Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 7652

    #2
    I just have Vengerov, Heifetz and Oistrakh (not the one mentioned, a poorly recorded Russian label now defunct. For some reason I have more recordings of the First. I 'd like to hear the Rabin readings

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    • Alison
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      • Nov 2010
      • 6455

      #3
      Unusual but not unwelcome recruit to library builder roster.

      I only have Ehnes and Vengerov.

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      • Pulcinella
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        • Feb 2014
        • 10889

        #4
        Chung/LSO/Previn [10'52", 9'55", 6'16"]
        Heifetz/BSO/Munch [8'58, 7'56", 6'01"]
        Sitkovetsky/LSO/Colin Davis [11'11", 9'30", 5'51"]
        Stern/Philadelphia O/Ormandy [10'25", 9'31", 6'01"]
        here, as well as the BBC MM CD of a 1936 performance by the violinist for whom it was composed:
        Soetens/BBCSO/Wood [10'04", 9'22", 6'05"]

        Chung and Stern are my 'go-to' versions.
        Last edited by Pulcinella; 21-12-22, 15:18. Reason: Movement timings added

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        • HighlandDougie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3081

          #5
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          Unusual but not unwelcome recruit to library builder roster.
          Standing in for an indisposed Ilan Volkov, Ben Gernon conducted it in October with the Oslo Philharmonic so should at least know the work. As Alison says, "unusual but not unwelcome".

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
            • 10889

            #6
            I've just listened to the five versions I have (listed in post #3) and been quite surprised at the differences in tempos for the movements.
            Without a score, it's hard to comment on 'faithfulness', but what surprised me most was the differences between the 1936 Soetens (for whom it was written) and Heifetz, who gave the US premiere in 1937.
            PS: I have edited that post to add movement timings.
            Last edited by Pulcinella; 21-12-22, 15:19. Reason: PS added

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            • pastoralguy
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7737

              #7
              One of my very favourite concertos!

              Mr. Heifetz is without equal in this work, the second movement being a super masterclass in legato playing. Other players are available…

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
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                #8
                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                One of my very favourite concertos!

                Mr. Heifetz is without equal in this work, the second movement being a super masterclass in legato playing. Other players are available…
                Which particular Heifetz, pg?
                I might need to check the timings again; I took the details from the CD liner notes, but the Presto site suggests 9'02" for the first movement in the BSO/Munch recording; still fast compared to others. Maybe now there's some space added between tracks.
                And I suspect that Alpie has been misled by the Presto listings: the Heifetz/Leningrad/Mravinsky version listed is actually the BSO/Munch one too, coupled with the Leningrad/Mravinsky S6.
                Prokofiev: Symphony No. 6. Regis: RRC1396. Buy download online. Jascha Heifetz (violin) Lenigrad Philharmonic Orchestra, Evgeny Mravinsky

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                • pastoralguy
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7737

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Which particular Heifetz, pg?
                  It doesn’t matter, Pulcinella. God is God, no matter who else is involved!

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                    It doesn’t matter, Pulcinella. God is God, no matter who else is involved!
                    My post was a little bit mischievous, pg, but I was surprised to see so many with him, even if one now looks spurious.
                    I wonder how much his interpretation changed since the 1937 US premiere he gave: maybe we'll find out.

                    Just listening to Pat Kop now; at 11'01" for the first movement, that's quite a contrast to the Heifetz/BSO/Munch I have.

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                    • Lordgeous
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                      • Dec 2012
                      • 830

                      #11
                      No Hilary Hahn?

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                      • richardfinegold
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 7652

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
                        No Hilary Hahn?
                        I think she only did the First…(?)

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                        • pastoralguy
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7737

                          #13
                          My introduction to this work was a sadly unavailable CfP recording by Maurice Hasson. It had an unusual coupling of Paganini’s First concerto. Hasson was a pupil of Szeryng who thought very highly of him. He recorded the Bruch g minor and the Scottish Fantasy with Sir Alex Gibson and the SNO which, again sadly, have never been released on cd.

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                          • pastoralguy
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7737

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                            My post was a little bit mischievous, pg, but I was surprised to see so many with him, even if one now looks spurious.
                            I wonder how much his interpretation changed since the 1937 US premiere he gave: maybe we'll find out.

                            Just listening to Pat Kop now; at 11'01" for the first movement, that's quite a contrast to the Heifetz/BSO/Munch I have.

                            Mine was a bit tongue in cheek too, Pulcie. There was a radio programme many years ago discussing Mr. Heifetz and no less a musician than Hugh Bean played his later recording as one of his favourite Heifetz moments.

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                            • Master Jacques
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                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1877

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                              My introduction to this work was a sadly unavailable CfP recording by Maurice Hasson. It had an unusual coupling of Paganini’s First concerto. Hasson was a pupil of Szeryng who thought very highly of him. He recorded the Bruch g minor and the Scottish Fantasy with Sir Alex Gibson and the SNO which, again sadly, have never been released on cd.
                              Now you're talking! I shall never forget a recital Hasson gave with Michael Isador (Dundee 1986) which I had the pleasure and privilege of attending - I still think of it as the best instrumental concert I ever heard live in my life. A great player, like his teacher, and equally at the music's service. He was doing the Debussy, Ravel and Faure 1st sonatas - the first and last of which they also recorded for CfP LP, later re-recorded beautifully with Christian Ivaldi on a treasurable Pickwick CD, which also includes the Franck sonata.

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