BaL 22.10.22 - Mozart: Symphony no. 31 in D "Paris" (K.297)

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  • Darloboy
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    • Jun 2019
    • 339

    #16
    Unbelievably, this appears to be the first time that this symphony has ever been covered by BaL. Glad to see some different works being reviewed in this series.

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    • smittims
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      • Aug 2022
      • 4521

      #17
      Karl Bohm's set was regarded as a pioneer in its time, because it excluded nos. 2,3, and 37 and included several more recently discovered Mozart symphonies. I was sorry to see that the next DG set, by the Vienna Philharmonic, was noticeably less adventurous in this respect, considering that it was recorded well after the Hogwood/Schroeder, with all the benefit of Neil Zaslaw's scholarship.

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20577

        #18
        Originally posted by smittims View Post
        Karl Bohm's set was regarded as a pioneer in its time, because it excluded nos. 2,3, and 37 and included several more recently discovered Mozart symphonies. I was sorry to see that the next DG set, by the Vienna Philharmonic, was noticeably less adventurous in this respect, considering that it was recorded well after the Hogwood/Schroeder, with all the benefit of Neil Zaslaw's scholarship.
        Yes, the Levine set only included the numbered symphonies (up to 41) and omitted the early 42-47, 55 and unnumbered ones.

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        • makropulos
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          • Nov 2010
          • 1685

          #19
          I've several recordings of the 'Paris' Symphony, but only listen to one regularly and with immense enjoyment: SCO/Mackerras on Linn.

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          • Mario
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            • Aug 2020
            • 572

            #20
            I love this symphony! And boy do I need some TLC after THAT match!

            Looking forward to this BAL.

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            • HighlandDougie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 3120

              #21
              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
              I like Hogwood, but the Krips/Concertgebouw radiates geniality.
              Somehow it feels like a guilty pleasure confronted with the likes of Hogwood, Brüggen, Adam Fischer or Mackerras but I often find my hand straying to that Philips box set. Lovely playing in the peerless Concertgebouw acoustic.

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              • smittims
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                • Aug 2022
                • 4521

                #22
                Krips used to have a high reputation, especially in his LSO days, but doesn't seem well-remembered now. John Culshaw, apparently a man of strong likes and dislikes, didn't like him at all. Yet Ivan March consistently referred to him as 'genial'.

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                • gurnemanz
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7432

                  #23
                  I have two very enjoyable recordings, neither yet mentioned:

                  English Concert, Trevor Pinnock (part of Complete Symphonies box)
                  Freiburger Barockorchester, Gottfried von der Goltz

                  Goltz has both versions of the slow movement.

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                  • Mario
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                    • Aug 2020
                    • 572

                    #24
                    I too have only two recordings, neither of which, if truth be told, is altogether satisfactory.

                    They are

                    Orchestra Filarmonica Italiana – Arigoni A (a 10-CD box of 55 symphonies on Cirrus Classics, altogether a rather perfunctory affair all round), not listed above, and

                    Mozart Academie Amsterdam – Linden J T (not much better).

                    Hence can’t wait for some good recommendations on BAL.

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                    • Alison
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6487

                      #25
                      SCO/Mackerras meets every need of mine. Tremendous.

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        SCO/Mackerras meets every need of mine. Tremendous.
                        That's three of us voting for SCO/Mackerras. His Prague recording is good, too, but not quite up there with that with the SCO. 17 years ago, I got the Mozart 250th Anniversary set of the symphonies with Harnoncourt and the RCO in the 31st. This was on the recommendation of Rob Cowan.



                        Note that, as with several other recordings, it includes the alternative Andante.
                        Last edited by Bryn; 03-10-22, 09:27.

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                        • LHC
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1574

                          #27
                          Another vote for SCO/Mackerras, and as Bryn says, his Prague recordings of the symphonies are also pretty good.
                          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                          • gradus
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5637

                            #28
                            Originally posted by smittims View Post
                            Krips used to have a high reputation, especially in his LSO days, but doesn't seem well-remembered now. John Culshaw, apparently a man of strong likes and dislikes, didn't like him at all. Yet Ivan March consistently referred to him as 'genial'.
                            I've still got his Everest/WRC recordings of the Beethoven symphonies with the LSO and very agreeable they are too.

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                            • Mario
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                              • Aug 2020
                              • 572

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              That's three of us voting for SCO/Mackerras.
                              Hm, maybe I don't need to wait for the BAL programme after all!

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                              • Pulcinella
                                Host
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 11189

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mario View Post
                                Hm, maybe I don't need to wait for the BAL programme after all!
                                I might: Linn recordings don't seem to be available on Deezer/Sonos.
                                The only version on my shelves is the cheap and cheerful Naxos conducted by Barry Wordsworth (a conductor I don't often rate that highly, but the Naxos box set of 'Famous Symphonies' seems ok to me).

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