BaL 1.10.22 - Brahms: Double Concerto in A minor

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20578

    BaL 1.10.22 - Brahms: Double Concerto in A minor

    10.30 a.m.
    Building a Library
    Roger Parker recommends a recording of Brahms Double Concerto in A minor

    The Double Concerto was Brahms' last orchestral work, composed in 1887. It was written partly as a gesture of reconciliation towards his friend the violinist, Joachim. The old friends had fallen out over Joachim's divorce. The concerto has been praised for its "vast and sweeping humour". It needs two brilliant and well-matched soloists.

    Available recordings:-

    Salvatore Accardo, Siegfried Palm, Orchestra Sinfonica Nazionale della RAI di Roma, Bruno Maderna *s
    Salvatore Accardo, Heinrich Schiff, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, Kurt Masur
    Lisa Batiashvili, Truls Mørk, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Simon Rattle (DVD/Blu-ray)
    Lisa Batiashvili, Gautier Capuçon, Staatskapelle Dresden, Christian Thielemann (DVD)
    Joshua Bell, Steven Isserlis, Jeremy Denk, Academy of St Martin in the Fields
    Erling Blöndal Bengtsson, Endre Wolf, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra of Stockholm, Stig Westerberg *
    Willi Boskovsky, Emanuel Brabec, Wiener Philharmoniker, Wilhelm Furtwängler
    Adolf Busch, Herman Busch, French National Radio Orchestra, Paul Kletzki
    Alfredo Campoli, André Navarra, Hallé Orchestra, Sir John Barbirolli
    Renaud Capuçon, Gautier Capuçon, Gustav Mahler Jugendorchester, Myung-Whun Chung
    John Corigliano, Leonard Rose, New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Bruno Walter
    Christian Ferrara, Janos Starker, Orchestre National de Radio France, Jean Martinon, Charles Bruck
    Christian Ferras, Paul Tortelier , Philharmonia Orchestra, Paul Kletzki
    Julia Fischer, Daniel Müller-Schott, Netherlands Philharminic Orchestra Amsterdam, Yakov Kreizberg *
    Zino Francescatti, Pierre Fournier, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Pierre Monteux
    Zino Francescatti, Samuel Mayes, Boston Symphony Orchestra, Charles Munch
    Zino Francescatti, Pierre Fournier, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Bruno Walter
    Ivry Gitlis, Maurice Gendron, Orchestre National de France, Michel Tabachnik
    Elena Graf, Emanuel Graf, Landesjugendorchester Baden-Wurttemberg, Christoph Wyneken *
    Arthur Grumiaux, Maurice Gendron, Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Hans Müller-Kray *
    Jascha Heifetz, Emanuel Feuermann, Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy
    Jascha Heifetz, Gregor Piatigorsky, RCA Victor Symphony Orchestra, Alfred Wallenstein *
    Sara Trobäck Hesselink, Claes Gunnarsson, Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra, Trio Poseidon, Neeme Järvi
    Ulf Hoelscher, Wolfgang Boettcher, Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Sir Neville Marriner *
    Oleg Kagan, Natalia Gutman, Lithuanian Chamber Orchestra, Saulus Sondezkis *
    Oleg Kagan, Natalia Gutman, USSR State Symphony Orchestra, Yevgeni Svetlanov
    Ilya Kaler, Maria Kliegel, Ireland National Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Constantine
    Mark Kaplan, David Geringas, SWR Sinfonieorchester Baden-Baden und Freiburg, Michael Gielen
    Gidon Kremer, Mischa Maisky, Wiener Philharmoniker, Leonard Bernstein
    Gidon Kremer, Clemens Hagen, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Nikolaus Harnoncourt
    Georg Kuhlenkampff, Enrico Mainardi, Orchestre de la Suisse Romande, Carl Schuricht
    Enrico Mainardi, Wolfgang Schneiderhan, Orchestra del Festival di Lucerna, Wilhelm Furtwängler *
    Mihaela Martin, Frans Helmerson, George Enescu Philharmonic Orchestra, Bucharest, Cristian Mandeal *
    Yehudi Menuhin, Leslie Parnas, Casals Festival Orchestra, Pablo Casals
    Yehudi Menuhin, Paul Tortelier, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Paavo Berglund *
    Nathan Milstein, Gregor Piatigorsky, The Robin Hood Dell Orchestra of Philadelphia, Fritz Reiner
    Mischa Mischakoff, Frank Miller, NBC Symphony Orchestra, Arturo Toscanini *
    Lydia Mordkovitch, Raphael Wallfisch, London Symphony Orchestra, Neeme Järvi
    Anne-Sophie Mutter, Pablo Fernandez, Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, Manfred Honeck,
    Anne-Sophie Mutter, Antonio Meneses, Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan
    Gordan Nikolitch, Tim Hugh, London Symphony Orchestra, Bernard Haitink
    Primoz Novsak, Susanne Basler, Bamberger Symphoniker, Heinz Wallberg,
    David Oistrakh & Pierre Fournier, Philharmonia Orchestra, Alceo Galliera
    David Oistrakh, Mstislav Rostropovich, Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell
    David Oistrakh, Åke Olofsson, Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra, Stig Westerberg
    Manoug Parikian, Erling Blöndal Bengtsson, English Chamber Orchestra, Norman Del Mar
    Edith Peinemann, Enrico Mainardi, Radio-Sinfonieorchester Stuttgart des SWR, Hans Müller-Kray *
    Itzhak Perlman, Yo-Yo Ma, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Daniel Barenboim *
    Itzhak Perlman, Mstislav Rostropovich, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink
    Itzhak Perlman, Mstislav Rostropovich, London Symphony Orchestra, Gennady Rozhdestvensky
    Philippe Quint, Zuill Bailey, North Carolina Symphony Orchestra, Grant Llewellyn
    Vadim Repin, with Truls Mørk, Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra, Riccardo Chailly *
    Benjamin Schmid, with Ramon Jaffé, Lutoslawski Philharmonic Wroclaw, Daniel Rasikin
    Wolfgang Schneiderhan, Enrico Mainardi, Wiener Philharmoniker, Karl Böhm
    Wolfgang Schneiderhan, Janos Starker, Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra, Ferenc Fricsay *
    Erik Schumann, Mark Schumann, Nuremberg Symphony Orchestra, Alexander Shelley
    Gil Shaham, Jian Wang, Berliner Philharmoniker, Claudio Abbado *
    Hagai Shaham, Raphael Wallfisch, Staatsorchester Rheinische Philharmonie, Daniel Raiskin
    Josef Sivó, Vladimir Orloff, Wiener Symphoniker, Wolfgang Sawallisch
    Isaac Stern, Yo-Yo Ma, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Claudio Abbado
    Isaac Stern, Leonard Rose, Orchestre National de France, Eugene Ormandy
    Isaac Stern, Leonard Rose, Cleveland Orchestra,George Szell
    Isaac Stern, Leonard Rose, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Bruno Walter
    Josef Suk, André Navarra, Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, Karel Ancerl *
    Henryk Szeryng, János Starker, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink *
    Jacques Thibaud, Pablo Casals, Pablo Casals Orchestra of Barcelona, Alfred Cortot
    Emmy Verhey, Janos Starker, Amsterdam Philharmonic Orchestra, Arpad Joo *
    Jiří Vodička, Jan Páleníček, Filharmonie Hradec Králové, Ondřej Kukal
    Mira Wang, Jan Vogler, Royal Scottish National Orchestra, Peter Oundjian
    Antje Weithaas, Maximilian Hornung, NDR Radiophilharmonie, Andrew Manze
    Tianwa Yang, Gabriel Schwabe, Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester Berlin, Antoni Wit
    Thomas Zehetmair, Antonio Meneses, WDR Sinfonieorchester Köln, Kurt Sanderling
    Qian Zhou, Qin Li-Wei (or Sebastian Comberti), Yong Siew Toh Conservatory Orchestra, Jason Lai *
    Frank Peter Zimmermann, Heinrich Schiff, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Wolfgang Sawallisch
    Pinchas Zukerman, Ralph Kirshbaum, London Symphony Orchestra, Christoph Eschenbach *
    Pinchas Zukerman, Amanda Forsyth, Canada's National Arts Centre Orchestra
    Pinchas Zukerman, Lynn Harrell, New York Philharmonic, Zubin Mehta

    * = download only
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 22-10-22, 17:02.
  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #2
    Sill Josef Suk, André Navarra, Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, Karel Ancerl for me.

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    • Mal
      Full Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 892

      #3
      On CD, I have Zino Francescatti, Pierre Fournier, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Bruno Walter in the wonderful "Bruno Walter conducts Brahms" box set, and a Naxos disk with
      Ilya Kaler, Maria Kliegel, Ireland National Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Constantine, where it appears with the Schumann Cello Concerto. I look forward to re-visiting these two performances.

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      • Pulcinella
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        • Feb 2014
        • 11239

        #4
        Originally posted by Mal View Post
        On CD, I have Zino Francescatti, Pierre Fournier, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Bruno Walter in the wonderful "Bruno Walter conducts Brahms" box set, and a Naxos disk with
        Ilya Kaler, Maria Kliegel, Ireland National Symphony Orchestra, Andrew Constantine, where it appears with the Schumann Cello Concerto. I look forward to re-visiting these two performances.
        I too have that Naxos recording, as well as the Oistrakh/Fournier/Philharmonia/Galliera version.
        Can't say I listen to either with any regularity or enthusiasm; for me, the double doesn't compare with the violin concerto and the two piano concertos, which all get frequent airings.

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        • makropulos
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          • Nov 2010
          • 1685

          #5
          My favourites are (in no particular order)
          Schneiderhan, Starker, Fricsay (DG)
          Francescatti, Fournier, Walter (Sony)
          Suk, Navarra, Ancerl (Supraphon)
          I don't have many other versions, but am very fond of these three.
          For something in more modern sound I'm tempted to explore Zimmermann, Schiff and Sawallish on EMI/Warner.

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          • edashtav
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            • Jul 2012
            • 3676

            #6
            The Double is my favourite Brahms concerto and I play one of my three classic versions in most years:

            Christian Ferras, Paul Tortelier, Philharmonia Orchestra, Paul Kletzki

            David Oistrakh, Mstislav Rostropovich, Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell
            Henryk Szeryng, János Starker, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink

            I must revisit them before Saturday as I’ve never decided which interpretation gets my vote.

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            • cloughie
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              • Dec 2011
              • 22239

              #7
              Schneiderhan, Starker, Fricsay (DG)
              Ferras, Tortelier, Kletzki (EMI)
              Stern, Rose, Ormandy (SONY)

              What a lovely listen this work always is!

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              • richardfinegold
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                • Sep 2012
                • 7823

                #8
                I have several but Stern/Rose/Ormandy is the one to take home

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                • smittims
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                  • Aug 2022
                  • 4587

                  #9
                  I have a feeeling this work might have started life (in sketch stage) as another piano trio. I've often imagined a conjectural reconstruction. The works surrounding it are chamber works, and orchestral music gets rarer in Brahms' middle age, almost as if he'd rather stop writing for orchestra. But the finished version is wonderful and has attracted so many fine performances It's a hard task to choose one.

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                  • Mal
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                    • Dec 2016
                    • 892

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    I too have that Naxos recording...
                    I just listened to it again and thought the first movement was rather good, plenty of Heifetz-like power & dynamism from both soloists, and the Irish orchestra sounding like a big American orchestra. But I thought it was lacking lyricism, which became a much bigger problem in the final movements! I found my enthusiasm draining completely away, and from being rapt in the first movement, I started scanning the reviews by the start of the third... Maybe I'll have more luck with Walter...

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20578

                      #11
                      Originally posted by smittims View Post
                      I have a feeeling this work might have started life (in sketch stage) as another piano trio. I've often imagined a conjectural reconstruction. The works surrounding it are chamber works, and orchestral music gets rarer in Brahms' middle age, almost as if he'd rather stop writing for orchestra. But the finished version is wonderful and has attracted so many fine performances It's a hard task to choose one.
                      That’s an interesting theory. It would indeed work well as a piano trio. However, the idea that Brahms wrote fewer orchestral works in middle age doesn’t seem to be backed up by the evidence. The 4 symphonies were late works too.

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                      • Mal
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                        • Dec 2016
                        • 892

                        #12
                        Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                        The Double is my favourite Brahms concerto and I play one of my three classic versions in most years:

                        Christian Ferras, Paul Tortelier, Philharmonia Orchestra, Paul Kletzki

                        David Oistrakh, Mstislav Rostropovich, Cleveland Orchestra, George Szell
                        Henryk Szeryng, János Starker, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink

                        I must revisit them before Saturday as I’ve never decided which interpretation gets my vote.
                        Good plan! Please tell us which wins the vote, I'll do the same with my two.

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                        • Darloboy
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                          • Jun 2019
                          • 340

                          #13
                          Surprisingly, this work hasn't featured in BaL since 1983 - I have no idea what the previous recommendations were.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mal View Post
                            Good plan! Please tell us which wins the vote, I'll do the same with my two.
                            The Szeryng/Starker/RCO/Haitink looked attractive, so I thought I'd have a quick look on amazon.co.uk. The only customer review gave it but 1 star! However, on checking out the content of that review, it turned out to comprise nothing but a moan about the non-delivery of the CD. No consideration of the performance or recording at all.

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                            • Parry1912
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 965

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Darloboy View Post
                              Surprisingly, this work hasn't featured in BaL since 1983 - I have no idea what the previous recommendations were.
                              The Capuchons/Chung recording was the Gramophone Collection choice last year.
                              Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”

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