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Quite golden times, on reflection.
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Premiered Schoenberg Cello Concerto with Fuermann in 1935Originally posted by RichardB View Post
Also Bax 6th Symphony.Comment
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I don't think we need to make any apologies for Beecham. He was a wonderful musician and had charm.Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostComment
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... neither of which are remotely modern in style...Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostComment
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So….?Originally posted by RichardB View Post
You may not like it but I personally think that Sir Thomas left a remarkable recorded legacy much of which I have on my shelves and I am pleased to be able to listen to when the mood takes me. There is much good humour and sunshine in many of Sir Thomas’ recordings! It may not be your intention but you seem to imply anything that is not hipp or modern is off trend. Again it may be unintentional but there is more than a hint of aggression and intolerance in the tone of many of your comments.Comment
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How ironic to refer to "more than a hint of aggression and intolerance in the tone of many of your comments". A pretty perfect summing up of Beecham's approach to others.Originally posted by cloughie View PostComment
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I don't really know what "off trend" means but I do have strongly held convictions about music, and one of these is that people like Beecham, with their intolerance and disrespect towards towards forms of creativity they don't understand, have been and continue to be a deadening influence on musical thinking in the UK, humour and sunshine notwithstanding.Comment
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As well as creating two Orchestras and almost single-handedly reintroducing serious Opera into this country he promoted many contemporary if not necessarily “modern” composers e.g Sibelius, Delius, Walton , Hindemith - even suggesting the Viola concerto to Walton that Hindemith later performed. He produced a series of classic recordings - many of which are still in the catalogue. He was crucial in re establishing Mozart in both the UK’s and Concert repertoire . You only have to read tributes from orchestral musicians to realise how much he was loved and respected. Part of the problem is that his off the cuff remarks about Bach,Stockhausen and Harosichords have , in some people’s minds, come to define him as some sort of musical reactionary. When you study his career in the round he was, in his own way , a revolutionary. His Revolution was to get the British to take classical music esp Opera seriously and not as some frivolous nice-to-have. All sorts of “modernist” composers have benefited from that not to mention 000’s of grateful musicians. Oh yes and quite a large part of it all was paid out his own (and parent’s ) pockets!Comment
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Quite a series of achievements for someone who died 61 years ago!
Yes, was for many years very much a champion of the the music of Delius, who was probably not everyone’s favourite at the time. Though never HIPP, quite the opposite, though as you said Held, he did however add greatly the popularity of many works by Handel, Haydn and Mozart,
In particular introducing operas not previously heard in GB!
Oh RB really, someone as ‘switched on’ as you not familiar with ‘trending’ - pull the other one!
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Originally posted by cloughie View Post. . . Oh RB really, someone as ‘switched on’ as you not familiar with ‘trending’ - pull the other one!Comment
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He did have his critics though . His disappearance to America and Australia during the war was frowned upon in high circles ( “The Government declared a State of Emergency so I emerged.”) And his somewhat relaxed indeed “modern” approach to his marriage outraged the Hyacinth Buckets.Originally posted by cloughie View PostQuite a series of achievements for someone who died 61 years ago!
Yes, was for many years very much a champion of the the music of Delius, who was probably not everyone’s favourite at the time. Though never HIPP, quite the opposite, though as you said Held, he did however add greatly the popularity of many works by Handel, Haydn and Mozart,
In particular introducing operas not previously heard in GB!
Oh RB really, someone as ‘switched on’ as you not familiar with ‘trending’ - pull the other one!
On the Opera front his company performed Hindemith’s Cardillac. An opera I’ve never heard of - let alone seen.Comment
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Don’t ask me Bryn I’ve never consciously been on or off trend - and I rather dislike the term anyway!Originally posted by Bryn View PostComment
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"GREGGERY PECCARY takes the elevator up to the eighty-third floor of a grim, gray, evil-looking building with a sign on the front reading: 'BIG SWIFTY & ASSOCIATES, TREND-MONGERS'Originally posted by cloughie View Post
"And what, might you ask, is a TREND MONGER? Well, a TREND MONGER is a person who dreams up a TREND (like 'The Twist'—or 'Flower Power'), and spreads it throughout the land, using all the frightening little skills that Science has made available!"Comment
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The “on-trend” phrase for “trend-setters” is now “early-adopters”Originally posted by Bryn View PostComment
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He probably spends the rest of his time hacking and phoning old people to scare them with scams. Sounds a very nasty person to me!Originally posted by Bryn View PostComment
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