BaL 14.05.22 - Vaughan Williams: Symphony no. 4 in F minor

[cloughie]

I think Keraulophone is referring to Jeremy S often stating during his BALs that he’s ‘listened blind’ - Mark Lowther apparently took a leaf from the same book.

Reference has often been made above to the fact that the equivalent French radio programme involves the same approach, with the critics hearing and reacting to the anonymous extracts in real time during the (90 minute) programme… (and no Bordeaux is involved, as far as one can tell )

Thanks for the clarification m’lud!

[Serial_Apologist]

There are certain moments when you know they've got it right, and others when all of the foregoing and what follows depends on judging these correctly if the whole thing is not to collapse into an ignominious heap. Today on COTW we heard the scherzo and finale as performed by the BBCSO under Brabbins. That final note absolutely has to convey the sound of the trap door slamming forever on Hades, but Brabbins only managed to lower the lid to an unconvincing thud.;

[neiltingley]

The thread title is lacking an 's'.

Do streaming versions count?

There is Gennady Rozhdestvensky's set of VW with the USSR Ministry of Culture SO.

Perhaps out of favour right now for other reasons, but it might be of interest. It is on Tidal.

American critic David Hurwitz does not mince his words about the Haitink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxc80x0Z62I


I gave up after hearing the 2nd subject. Lifeless.

[Alison]

American critic David Hurwitz does not mince his words about the Haitink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxc80x0Z62I


I gave up after hearing the 2nd subject. Lifeless.

I have far more respect for Mr Lowther.

[Bryn]

American critic David Hurwitz does not mince his words about the Haitink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxc80x0Z62I


I gave up after hearing the 2nd subject. Lifeless.

Surely the American shock-jock, David Hurwitz, whose credentials as a music critic are severely open to question? All too often a dismissal by him is best taken as an effective recommendation.

[Braunschlag]

Surely the American shock-jock, David Hurwitz, whose credentials as a music critic are severely open to question? All too often a dismissal by him is best taken as an effective recommendation.

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

[neiltingley]

Surely the American shock-jock, David Hurwitz, whose credentials as a music critic are severely open to question? All too often a dismissal by him is best taken as an effective recommendation.

I'm not here to defend him. He can do that very well himself. Some people might find his videos full of interesting recommendations.

[Bryn]

. . . Some people might find his videos full of interesting recommendations.

My heart goes out to them, poor deluded souls. Michael Miles would have found a good use for that Tam-tam he poses in front of.

[Braunschlag]

I'm not here to defend him. He can do that very well himself. Some people might find his videos full of interesting recommendations.

I do.

[Maclintick]

I'm not here to defend him. He can do that very well himself. Some people might find his videos full of interesting recommendations.

On the subject of RVW Symphony 4, I seriously question whether David Hurwitz has the capacity for listening, as opposed to indulging his habitual Brit-phobic bias. He's wrong in fact to say that the NYPO/Bernstein recording wasn't well-received by UK critics -- The Gramophone review at the time was very complimentary, praising the NYPO's strings "greater sense of line" compared to Boult's NPO in the first movt 2nd subject cantilena, for instance. Having just listened to LPO/Haitink -- & been completely knocked out by it's visceral impact from start to finish, I come to the conclusion that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Braunschlag]

Well, to me the Haitinck is like….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOPygVcaVE

[Bryn]

Why is it [this BaL, not the symphony set!] being described as a special edition?

Where?

[Maclintick]

Well, to me the Haitinck is like….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOPygVcaVE

OK -- if you've nothing interesting or germane to the discussion to contribute...( PS -- do you mean Haitink, as opposed to Haitinck ? )

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Well, to me the Haitinck is like….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOPygVcaVE

OK -- if you've nothing interesting or germane to the discussion to contribute...( PS -- do you mean Haitink, as opposed to Haitinck ? )

That’s enough. No more of this, please.

[cloughie]

That’s enough. No more of this, please.

I tink so Alps!