Bal 7.05.22 - Beethoven String Quartet no. 1 in F (Op 18 no 1)

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  • pastoralguy
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7847

    #16
    Great to hear The Paganini Quartet get a mention. Their leader, Henri Temianka, wrote a wonderful book called ‘Facing the Music’ which describes the founding of the quartet and how they came to play on the four Stradivari instruments that were once owned by Paganini.

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    • Alison
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      • Nov 2010
      • 6487

      #17
      To consider this one quartet will make for a much more interesting library edition imho, especially with a reviewer good on detail.

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6487

        #18
        Sounds very much like Sophy Ridge of Sky news reviewing today.

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        • pastoralguy
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          • Nov 2010
          • 7847

          #19
          Glad to see The Cuarteto Casals get the top spot today.

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          • Alison
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            • Nov 2010
            • 6487

            #20
            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
            Glad to see The Cuarteto Casals get the top spot today.
            Slightly surprised Chiaroscuro didn’t win though admit I don’t enjoy that version as much as some.

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            • ardcarp
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11102

              #21
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              To consider this one quartet will make for a much more interesting library edition imho, especially with a reviewer good on detail.
              Given that opportunity which you mention, I must say hearing every comment repeated 3X (e.g. the 'open strings' thing near the outset of the programme) made for boring listening. Likewise musings about tempi. Personally I would have preferred to have a practising professional SQ player reviewing the piece. I am slightly prejudiced about Op18 No 1 as I was over-exposed to it (around A-level time?) as an example of how Beethoven took a motif...the opening theme of the 1st mov't in this case..... and worried it to death. If this sounds like heresy, then just write me off as a heretic....but I love the originality of the late quartets. Why not one of those? Much more to say, though preferably only once.

              More heresy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2V1EAerRWw
              Last edited by ardcarp; 07-05-22, 10:58.

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              • Retune
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                • Feb 2022
                • 332

                #22
                Interesting choice. Has anyone listened to the whole Casals cycle? By the end of the programme the Chiaroscuro was perhaps the quartet I most wanted to hear more of - it will be interesting to see how their cycle progresses.

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                • pastoralguy
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7847

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Retune View Post
                  Interesting choice. Has anyone listened to the whole Casals cycle? By the end of the programme the Chiaroscuro was perhaps the quartet I most wanted to hear more of - it will be interesting to see how their cycle progresses.

                  Yes, I’m a big fan of the Casals and eagerly bought each volume as it was released. Wonderful musicians!

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                  • Master Jacques
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                    • Feb 2012
                    • 2058

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                    Given that opportunity which you mention, I must say hearing every comment repeated 3X (e.g. the 'open strings' thing near the outset of the programme) made for boring listening. Likewise musings about tempi. Personally I would have preferred to have a practising professional SQ player reviewing the piece.
                    I can't disagree with your judgement of the ... well, let's say "humdrum" presentation of this BAL. I'd have preferred a professional broadcaster myself to a corporate academic scarcely interested in the art of recording, though to be fair the reviewer did have something to say about the discography.

                    As for their aperçu to the effect that players of this quartet need to make a choice between taking a "classical" or "romantic" approach, that may be a poser for academics keen to put everything into one bogus pigeonhole or another, but it is a question which - in my experience - professional performing musicians never waste a second thinking about!

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
                      I can't disagree with your judgement of the ... well, let's say "humdrum" presentation of this BAL. I'd have preferred a professional broadcaster myself to a corporate academic scarcely interested in the art of recording, though to be fair the reviewer did have something to say about the discography.

                      As for their aperçu to the effect that players of this quartet need to make a choice between taking a "classical" or "romantic" approach, that may be a poser for academics keen to put everything into one bogus pigeonhole or another, but it is a question which - in my experience - professional performing musicians never waste a second thinking about!
                      That reminds me of what finally put me of Fanny Waterman's credibility as a judge of pianism. She was going on about differences in approach to playing Mozart and Beethoven scales, but in the context of playing them on a modern Steinway instrument, something neither of them had any knowledge of the playing properties of. 'nuff sed.

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                      • jonfan
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1457

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Retune View Post
                        By the end of the programme the Chiaroscuro was perhaps the quartet I most wanted to hear more of - it will be interesting to see how their cycle progresses.
                        I can’t wait to hear everything they do. They make every performance of whatever piece they’re playing as though it’s just been composed. I heard them live in Mozart’s Clarinet Quintet and Schubert’s Octet recently - absolutely revelatory.

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