BaL 9.04.22 - Mahler: Symphony no. 9

**Bryn** · 26-03-22, 23:08

The Gielen in not download ony. It is in the SWR Gielen Edition, Vol. 6.

A superb survey.

**Lordgeous** · 26-03-22, 23:43

Can't wait! I grew up with Klemperer/Philharmonia. If memory serves me right towards the end of the last movement there's an early violin entry. They realise and stop and then enter correctly. I think it was left in because the take was so wonderful. Can anyone correct or coroborate? I'm not usually a Klemperer fan but that recording seemed very special to me. I wonder if I'd like it now? (I shared a lift once with the wheelchair bound maestro at the RFH - couldn't pluck up the courage to say ANYTHING to him!).

**Darloboy** · 27-03-22, 00:54

Previous BaLs:

Bernard Keeffe (Jan 94) - VPO/Abbado + BPO/Barbirolli as mid-price choice

Peter Quantrill (May 07) - BPO/Abbado + Czech PO/Ancerl as mid-price choice + VPO/Bernstein 1972 as DVD choice

**Joseph K** · 27-03-22, 06:11

Barbirolli with the BPO was the recording with which I got to know this work - and to be honest, I haven't really checked out others, though I also have Tennstedt and Boulez...

**Petrushka** · 27-03-22, 09:24

I'm not sure what the entry for 'Berliner Philharmoniker/Haitink' is as he never recorded it with them. An Amazon search has yielded this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/music/playe...8368093&sr=8-5 which I can only assume, for lack of any detail, is a live performance from the BPO Digital Concert Hall given on December 3 2017. I might have answered my own question but perhaps someone better informed can say for certain.

The one listed as 'Europa/Haitink' is a Decca issue of a live 1993 performance by the European Community Youth Orchestra and Haitink in the Concertgebouw. It's coupled with the Poulenc Organ Concerto.

My very first recording, purchased in 1973, was the Bruno Walter one with the Columbia Symphony Orchestra, a recording I played endlessly. I've got very many of those listed (plus a good number off-air) and, adopting the same approach as I did with the Bruckner 9 BaL, I'll give my own shortlist of those on CD that I really wouldn't want to be without:

Columbia SO/Walter
VPO/Walter (the classic 1938 recording given two months before the Anschluss)
BPO/Karajan (live Sept 1982)
Concertgebouw/Haitink
VPO/Abbado
Concertgebouw/Bernstein

If I was forced to take only one of these it would be the Concertgebouw/Haitink recorded in June 1969 in splendid sound and an endlessly fascinating performance that one can live with for always, finding fresh detail with every hearing, while that last, great central climax in the finale, perfectly judged, has never been done better.

**Eine Alpensinfonie** · 27-03-22, 09:47

Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

I'm not sure what the entry for 'Berliner Philharmoniker/Haitink' is as he never recorded it with them. An Amazon search has yielded this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/music/playe...8368093&sr=8-5 which I can only assume, for lack of any detail, is a live performance from the BPO Digital Concert Hall given on December 3 2017. I might have answered my own question but perhaps someone better informed can say for certain.

The one listed as 'Europa/Haitink' is a Decca issue of a live 1993 performance by the European Community Youth Orchestra and Haitink in the Concertgebouw. It's coupled with the Poulenc Organ Concerto.

Thank you for the clarification.

List now amended.

**HighlandDougie** · 27-03-22, 10:39

Originally posted by Petrushka View Post

I'm not sure what the entry for 'Berliner Philharmoniker/Haitink' is as he never recorded it with them. An Amazon search has yielded this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/music/playe...8368093&sr=8-5 which I can only assume, for lack of any detail, is a live performance from the BPO Digital Concert Hall given on December 3 2017. I might have answered my own question but perhaps someone better informed can say for certain.

That performance (from the Digital Concert Hall archive) is widely available as a digital download: See for instance:

Mahler: Symphony No. 9 (2021) | Berliner Philharmoniker and Bernard Haitink | High Quality Music Downloads | 7digital United Kingdom

https://uk.7digital.com/artist/berliner-philharmoniker-and-bernard-haitink/release/mahler-symphony-no-9-15541374?f=20%2C19%2C12%2C16%2C17%2C9%2C2

Preview, buy and download high-quality music downloads of Mahler: Symphony No. 9 by Berliner Philharmoniker and Bernard Haitink from 7digital United Kingdom - We have over 30 million high quality tracks in our store.

or as a physical CD in:

Mahler: Symphonies 1–10

https://www.berliner-philharmoniker-recordings.com/mahler-symphonies.html

In the symphonies of Gustav Mahler, the monumental stands next to the delicate, the spiritual to the profane, the tragic to the humorous, and despair to the hope of redemption.

The hi-res download (from 7 digital) is excellent and inexpensive - and it's a wonderful performance, particularly as an adjunct to that 1969 Concertgebouw issue, which is the performance I grew up with so holds a special place for me. The Bluray Audio version of it is a joy.

**Pulcinella** · 27-03-22, 11:06

BPO/Barbirolli here too.

**Barbirollians** · 27-03-22, 11:09

Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

BPO/Barbirolli here too.

Gillian Moore chose Columbia SO/Walter for Mahler 1 wonder if she will do so again for the Ninth.

**richardfinegold** · 27-03-22, 11:35

I have a number on EA’s list. I think I’ve only hear it once live. Barenboim, not much of a Mahlerian, performed it in one of his last concerts as Music Director here.
My first was Ancerl/Czech PO. I find it still holds up well, and of the many on my shelves I would have no problem awarding the palm to Ancerl-it isn’t just a first love phenomenon. The latest that I acquired is the Haitink/Amsterdam on BluRay that HD referenced, and the various versions on Pristine Audio (I listened to the Walter/VPO a few weeks back).

**Parry1912** · 27-03-22, 11:51

Thanks for the list, EA, but shouldn’t there be two BPO/Karajan recordings? The analogue studio from 1981 and the live digital from 1982?

Incidentally, the live one would still be my first choice overall.

**richardfinegold** · 27-03-22, 12:13

Originally posted by Parry1912 View Post

Thanks for the list, EA, but shouldn’t there be two BPO/Karajan recordings? The analogue studio from 1981 and the live digital from 1982?

Incidentally, the live one would still be my first choice overall.

There are also various live Karajan floating around from specialty labels. I have one from Norpete.com

**Petrushka** · 27-03-22, 14:19

Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post

There are also various live Karajan floating around from specialty labels. I have one from Norpete.com

Unfortunately, I'm getting messages saying that that site isn't secure, so I'd be wary of buying off it. Perhaps different for you in the US.

**Barbirollians** · 27-03-22, 14:32

I have both Walters, the Barbirolli, the live Karajan, Dudamel. LSO/Solti , Ancerl, Haitink and Mitropoulos .

The 1961 Walter is my favourite .

PS How could I forget the Abbado Lucerne blu-ray - awesome performance.

BaL 9.04.22 - Mahler: Symphony no. 9

BaL 9.04.22 - Mahler: Symphony no. 9

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