BaL 9.04.22 - Mahler: Symphony no. 9

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  • Alison
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6455

    #61
    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    OK so which Forum member snapped up the VPO/Abbado 9th for £3.95 on Amazon that I’d been eyeing?
    Not guilty but wouldn't mind having it at such a price.

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
      • 22115

      #62
      Originally posted by Alison View Post
      Not guilty but wouldn't mind having it at such a price.
      Regrettably it’s more than double that now but Presto have it at £8.50 which is not vastly overpriced - usually judge prices on how much I want something - do I need another Mahler 9th - not at the moment!

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      • HighlandDougie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3081

        #63
        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        Regrettably it’s more than double that now but Presto have it at £8.50 which is not vastly overpriced - usually judge prices on how much I want something - do I need another Mahler 9th - not at the moment!
        Well, if you change your mind, I can - if I can find it - bung you a spare copy when I return to Scotland in a couple of weeks time. I have it in the (Universal Korea) Abbado Mahler Symphonies box so don't really need another one. PM me if interested.

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #64
          There’s so many great recordings of this work, out there, these days. I’d be hard pressed to choose just one!
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • richardfinegold
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            • Sep 2012
            • 7656

            #65
            Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
            There’s so many great recordings of this work, out there, these days. I’d be hard pressed to choose just one!
            Quite so. My experience in Rattle/Mahler is confined to the Tenth.

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            • jonfan
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              • Dec 2010
              • 1422

              #66
              A life enhancing memorable prom I attended, with Abbado conducting the BPO, and the very long silence of the huge audience at the conclusion was as profound as the music making which had gone before. Anyone remember?

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              • Wolfram
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                • Jul 2019
                • 273

                #67
                Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                A life enhancing memorable prom I attended, with Abbado conducting the BPO, and the very long silence of the huge audience at the conclusion was as profound as the music making which had gone before. Anyone remember?
                I remember it very well; I expect that if you were lucky enough to be there for that prom it would be impossible to forget it. As memorable, if not more so, than the Bernstein 5th from the mid 1980s. The other great Mahler 9 I recall from the proms was that given by Bruno Maderna and the BBCSO. A RFH performance with Maderna and the BBCSO was released a while ago on BBC Legends.

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                • Petrushka
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12235

                  #68
                  Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                  A life enhancing memorable prom I attended, with Abbado conducting the BPO, and the very long silence of the huge audience at the conclusion was as profound as the music making which had gone before. Anyone remember?
                  Yes, I was there too, August 25 1994.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • EnemyoftheStoat
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1132

                    #69
                    I caught up with this BAL earlier via Soundz. I wasn't convinced that I need to track down the Rattle version, no matter which Fillermonic it features, especially as I have the Haitink BRSO still to listen to. The local Oxfam's latest haul this week included several Haitink Philips Mahlers, but unfortunately not his 9th.

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                    • RichardB
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2021
                      • 2170

                      #70
                      This morning (it was one of those mornings) I listened all through the Barbirolli and the 1982 Karajan. Both beautiful performances, seemingly by different orchestras! (I wonder how many players there were in common) - and certainly recorded in very different ways. I did prefer the former, as I was expecting to, although it seemed somewhat too fast in a couple of places.

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                      • gradus
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5604

                        #71
                        As CBS included a rehearsal disc with the Walter stereo record, I wonder if, given the unusual combination of Barbirolli and the BPO, a rehearsal recording exists?

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22115

                          #72
                          Originally posted by gradus View Post
                          As CBS included a rehearsal disc with the Walter stereo record, I wonder if, given the unusual combination of Barbirolli and the BPO, a rehearsal recording exists?
                          Maybe not as, if I remember correctly, the original LPs of the 9th had a blank side. That would been the ideal place for a rehearsal recording!

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11669

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            I have both Walters, the Barbirolli, the live Karajan, Dudamel. LSO/Solti , Ancerl, Haitink and Mitropoulos .

                            The 1961 Walter is my favourite .

                            PS How could I forget the Abbado Lucerne blu-ray - awesome performance.
                            Glad to hear the Barbirolli did so well - Walter only just shades it for me by a whisker.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11669

                              #74
                              Originally posted by gradus View Post
                              As CBS included a rehearsal disc with the Walter stereo record, I wonder if, given the unusual combination of Barbirolli and the BPO, a rehearsal recording exists?
                              The story as I remember it was that HVK was happy for Barbirolli to be invited to conduct repertoire like Mahler in which in the early 1960s he had little interest . The music was very much new to the BPO and they so enjoyed playing it in concert for Barbirolli that the BPO asked if he would record it for them and HMV agreed.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26523

                                #75
                                Agreed.

                                The main interest for me was being directed to the Merry Widow March - thanks to YouTube, for the first time I heard the section quoted in the 9th (I think it’s the third subject of the Léhar march) and listened to it ‘back to back’ with what Mahler made of it. Fascinating. To this extent, I’m glad I heard this BAL.

                                I’m not sure the Rattle’s for me but there’s some fabulous solo playing in the inner movements


                                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                                This felt more like a guide to Mahler 9 with excerpts from some of the best recordings. I liked the descriptions of the music.

                                Comments on the recordings limited by and large to the segments played rather than the performance as a whole.

                                Not much overview of the library criteria.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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