BaL 2.04.22 - Mozart: The Marriage of Figaro

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  • Ein Heldenleben
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    • Apr 2014
    • 7054

    #46
    Oh they’ve cut out before the wonderful modulation from the pardon into the finale ultimo in the Ostman. Sacrilege. Jacobs the winner - I give up. A dreadful echoey acoustic unlike anything I’ve ever heard . Both ROH and Glyndebourne are dry acoustics. This isn’t what Mozart opera sounds like in reality ….and I’ve seen dozens of them.

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11822

      #47
      Heavens the Jacobs is dire - the ending just played sounded like an oratorio . Pleased to know it needs avoiding like the plague.

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6484

        #48
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Heavens the Jacobs is dire - the ending just played sounded like an oratorio . Pleased to know it needs avoiding like the plague.
        Yes, I have a sick headache now.

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        • Alison
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          • Nov 2010
          • 6484

          #49
          Allergy to Teodor Currentzis also confirmed.

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          • Ein Heldenleben
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            • Apr 2014
            • 7054

            #50
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            Heavens the Jacobs is dire - the ending just played sounded like an oratorio . Pleased to know it needs avoiding like the plague.
            Liked the Ostman . Thought the Perdono etc was well done. But despite the undoubted merits of the great Simon Keenlyside that church acoustic in Jacobs is just plain wrong and historically UNinformed performance practice.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20576

              #51
              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
              Heavens the Jacobs is dire - the ending just played sounded like an oratorio . Pleased to know it needs avoiding like the plague.
              We might have avoided all this, with the recommended version and the runners up being listed in advance on the website. For some reason the Kleiber isn’t on the list, even though NK clearly thought very highly of it. I sometimes wonder about the human gremlins who do the R3 webpage.

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              • Ein Heldenleben
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                • Apr 2014
                • 7054

                #52
                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                Allergy to Teodor Currentzis also confirmed.
                I quite liked his recent bonkers Salzburg Don Giovanni with its sub Fats Waller fortepiano continuo. (I’m slightly exaggerating)

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                • RobP
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                  • Dec 2020
                  • 66

                  #53
                  Stream, but poor sound

                  Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                  I have a fondness for the Drottningholm/Ostman recording - shame it's now only available as a download.
                  Sorry forgot this site doesn't allow direct replies to a quote.

                  You can also stream the Ostman, but it's very difficult to listen to because of the crude early digital sound

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
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                    • Apr 2014
                    • 7054

                    #54
                    Welcome Rob . Apologies that we happy few are collectively a tiny bit put out by the BAL choice …
                    A not unprecedented occurrence.

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20576

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                      I quite liked his recent bonkers Salzburg Don Giovanni with its sub Fats Waller fortepiano continuo. (I’m slightly exaggerating)
                      Talking of continuos, did anyone see/hear that Opera North production that used an amplified harpsichord? It sounded hideous, and the production itself was ridiculous. Hiding behind a tree was represented by the character covering part of her face with a hand-mirror sized plastic tree.
                      Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 02-04-22, 11:32.

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11822

                        #56
                        Couldn’t agree more with both of your posts Alison ! I did also quite like the Ostman.

                        I am just listening to Janowitz in Porgi Amor to cleanse my ears.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #57
                          Originally posted by RobP View Post
                          Sorry forgot this site doesn't allow direct replies to a quote.

                          You can also stream the Ostman, but it's very difficult to listen to because of the crude early digital sound
                          It's in the Mozart 225 box, the French version of which is still available, IIRC. I must put my two spare (English) boxes up for sale at horrendously inflated prices, some time.

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                          • Barbirollians
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11822

                            #58
                            Apparently, the Jacobs won Gramophone recording of the year in 2004 - I think that was during the Inverne years when I had stopped buying it as I did not remember that . Even the late Stanley Sadie , a pretty arch HIppite of the time said it didn’t challenge the best and they he thought Jacobs instincts were not truly Mozartian in his original review though he praised the cast.

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                            • Alison
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6484

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                              Liked the Ostman . Thought the Perdono etc was well done. But despite the undoubted merits of the great Simon Keenlyside that church acoustic in Jacobs is just plain wrong and historically UNinformed performance practice.

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                              • Darloboy
                                Full Member
                                • Jun 2019
                                • 338

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                                Apparently, the Jacobs won Gramophone recording of the year in 2004 - I think that was during the Inverne years when I had stopped buying it as I did not remember that . Even the late Stanley Sadie , a pretty arch HIppite of the time said it didn’t challenge the best and they he thought Jacobs instincts were not truly Mozartian in his original review though he praised the cast.
                                Jacobs has now been BaL 1st choice for Figaro, Die Zauberflöte & Tito. Perhaps the reviewers were all working for Gramophone circa 2004? Like others, I prefer Östman, not least for Barbara Bonney’s Susanna.

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