BaL 5.02.22 - Haydn: Symphony no. 49 in F minor 'La Passione'

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  • Retune
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    • Feb 2022
    • 331

    #31
    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    Vienna Chamber Orchestra, Ernst Märzendorfer Is the bargain download - £8.00 coupled with 105 other symphonies and the Sinfonia Concertante!
    However my preferences are Dorati, Pinnock and Hogwood.
    Someone is selling the complete set for £8?

    I'd sampled Pinnock on YouTube and liked his version enough to order the Sturm & Drang box ahead of today's programme, so no complaints about their choice. But Märzendorfer has an interesting take on it.

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
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      #32
      Originally posted by Retune View Post
      Someone is selling the complete set for £8?

      I'd sampled Pinnock on YouTube and liked his version enough to order the Sturm & Drang box ahead of today's programme, so no complaints about their choice. But Märzendorfer has an interesting take on it.
      It was available from Presto as I purchased it in December, but now seems to have disappeared from their listing as a download and is only fully available as a Scribendum CD set at £33.

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      • Joseph K
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        • Oct 2017
        • 7765

        #33
        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        It was available from Presto as I purchased it in December, but now seems to have disappeared from their listing as a download and is only fully available as a Scribendum CD set at £33.
        Consider yourself lucky that you got back that missing finale - they fobbed me off in one email a while back and I haven't heard anything since!

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        • mahlerfan
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          • Aug 2021
          • 118

          #34
          Which one was the recommended recording?

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          • Alison
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            • Nov 2010
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            #35
            Originally posted by mahlerfan View Post
            Which one was the recommended recording?
            Trevor Pinnock

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            • mahlerfan
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              • Aug 2021
              • 118

              #36
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              Trevor Pinnock
              Thank you

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              • cloughie
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                • Dec 2011
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                #37
                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                Trevor Pinnock
                I’ve not listened yet to the BaL but in my view the Pinnock Sturm und Drang box is excellent, so not surprisd his 49 scored

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6484

                  #38
                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  I’ve not listened yet to the BaL but in my view the Pinnock Sturm und Drang box is excellent, so not surprisd his 49 scored
                  I’m always surprised Trev didn’t last longer with DG, having scored many times on that label.

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                  • visualnickmos
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3616

                    #39
                    I replied to a more than implied put down from a fellow poster as to why I reacted to Pinnock's recording the way I did. The poster was arrogant, and basically that it was my failing, that I didn't sher HER viewpoint. So, my reasoned response has been removed, and her's stays. What is going on? Seriously thinking of quitting the whole damn thing. This not good.

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                    • Braunschlag
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                      • Jul 2017
                      • 487

                      #40
                      I would agree on some inconsistency here.

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
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                        • Apr 2014
                        • 7047

                        #41
                        Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                        I replied to a more than implied put down from a fellow poster as to why I reacted to Pinnock's recording the way I did. The poster was arrogant, and basically that it was my failing, that I didn't sher HER viewpoint. So, my reasoned response has been removed, and her's stays. What is going on? Seriously thinking of quitting the whole damn thing. This not good.
                        I enjoy your posts and hope you stay . As can be seen I managed to post in between the exchange you refer to. Although I disagree with the epithet you used to describe the Pinnock performance I completely respect your right to say what you think about the performance . To be honest I think the string playing in the Pinnock is very fine, nicely shaped and amazingly, given the relative lack of vibrato , in tune. If you hear something different that’s life.
                        I have friends whilst being excellent musicians can’t stand (amongst other things ) - the flute , choir and orchestra , piano and orchestra, drum solos , bass solos, trading fours , the harpsichord, the fortepiano , song recitals , electronic music, synthesisers , the organ , the Hammond organ , the Fender Rhodes piano , string vibrato , lack of string vibrato , singers with excessive vibrato, head voice , Italian tenors , the pure “white sound “ of Cathedral choirs, the Vienna Boys Choir , the Broadway musical …… the list is endless. As has been said before it would be a boring world if we all agreed.

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                        • Bryn
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                          . . . As has been said before it would be a boring world if we all agreed.
                          It has been said that Stalin asserted that the only place total agreement was to be found was in the graveyard. He then seems to have set about trying to achieve such total agreement.

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20576

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                            I enjoy your posts and hope you stay . As can be seen I managed to post in between the exchange you refer to. Although I disagree with the epithet you used to describe the Pinnock performance I completely respect your right to say what you think about the performance . To be honest I think the string playing in the Pinnock is very fine, nicely shaped and amazingly, given the relative lack of vibrato , in tune. If you hear something different that’s life.
                            I have friends whilst being excellent musicians can’t stand (amongst other things ) - the flute , choir and orchestra , piano and orchestra, drum solos , bass solos, trading fours , the harpsichord, the fortepiano , song recitals , electronic music, synthesisers , the organ , the Hammond organ , the Fender Rhodes piano , string vibrato , lack of string vibrato , singers with excessive vibrato, head voice , Italian tenors , the pure “white sound “ of Cathedral choirs, the Vienna Boys Choir , the Broadway musical …… the list is endless. As has been said before it would be a boring world if we all agreed.
                            That's a good summing up. We can disagree, but in doing so, we shouldn't make disparaging remarks to (or about) the other poster. When it comes to moderation, it's straightforward enough to remove a post that goes against House Rules, but if that post has been quoted in a later post, then it may be necessary to delete or edit that post too. Otherwise the whole thing carries on.

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                            • cloughie
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22222

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                              I enjoy your posts and hope you stay . As can be seen I managed to post in between the exchange you refer to. Although I disagree with the epithet you used to describe the Pinnock performance I completely respect your right to say what you think about the performance . To be honest I think the string playing in the Pinnock is very fine, nicely shaped and amazingly, given the relative lack of vibrato , in tune. If you hear something different that’s life.
                              I have friends whilst being excellent musicians can’t stand (amongst other things ) - the flute , choir and orchestra , piano and orchestra, drum solos , bass solos, trading fours , the harpsichord, the fortepiano , song recitals , electronic music, synthesisers , the organ , the Hammond organ , the Fender Rhodes piano , string vibrato , lack of string vibrato , singers with excessive vibrato, head voice , Italian tenors , the pure “white sound “ of Cathedral choirs, the Vienna Boys Choir , the Broadway musical …… the list is endless. As has been said before it would be a boring world if we all agreed.
                              Yes there are some things I dislike and others in small doses. Andrew McGregor mention the issue of a 2CD set of 37 of Scarlatti’s Sonatas for Harpsichord. I know there are lovers of Baroque music on the Forum and I could probably enjoy listening to a couple or so of these but does anyone hereabouts really enjoy a sitting of 37 in one go! It would do my ‘ead ih!

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                              • HighlandDougie
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3113

                                #45
                                Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                                I replied to a more than implied put down from a fellow poster as to why I reacted to Pinnock's recording the way I did. The poster was arrogant, and basically that it was my failing, that I didn't sher HER viewpoint. So, my reasoned response has been removed, and her's stays. What is going on? Seriously thinking of quitting the whole damn thing. This not good.
                                Nick

                                It would not be good for the forum if you decided to quit. I always enjoy reading your posts from along the coast, even if I don't always see eye to eye with where you are coming from. But that is, surely, healthy. Having had a post "cancelled" recently (hey, I can add "Cancelled by the Friends of the Radio 3 Forum" to the "Door-stepped by the Daily Mail" t-shirt), I just think that the forum moderators need to lighten up a little. Rules are rules, yes, but let's everybody keep everything in some kind of wider perspective - the sky won't fall in if forum members disagree even if the to-and-fro sometimes becomes a bit heated.

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