I heard a wonderful performance on R3 in the last couple of weeks but not the performers names, it was characterised by good sound, great playing and a very spacious tempo at the Summit - the opposite of Welser Most's horrible revisionist approach. It wasn't Karajan whose performance I have on LP. Any suggestions as to whose performance it might have been?
BaL 13.11.21 - Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie
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Originally posted by gradus View PostI heard a wonderful performance on R3 in the last couple of weeks but not the performers names, it was characterised by good sound, great playing and a very spacious tempo at the Summit - the opposite of Welser Most's horrible revisionist approach. It wasn't Karajan whose performance I have on LP. Any suggestions as to whose performance it might have been?
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostSame old story - small shortlist no time to discuss others properly due to the endless McGregor interruptions.
As much as I like Karajan's performance, and I do, I find the recording too flashy and glaringly OTT. I warmed to Thielemann this time around. And for heavens sake where was Kempe?
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Originally posted by gradus View PostI heard a wonderful performance on R3 in the last couple of weeks but not the performers names, it was characterised by good sound, great playing and a very spacious tempo at the Summit - the opposite of Welser Most's horrible revisionist approach. It wasn't Karajan whose performance I have on LP. Any suggestions as to whose performance it might have been?
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Originally posted by Wolfram View PostAs much as I like Karajan's performance, and I do, I find the recording too flashy and glaringly OTT. I warmed to Thielemann this time around. And for heavens sake where was Kempe?
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Originally posted by Wolfram View PostI thought AMG pushed the interruptions to a new level this morning to the extent where he seemed to be vying to be the guest reviewer himself and relegating poor Mark Simpson to the role of presenter/inerviewer. I felt sorry for Mark Simpson, who's obviously a very nice bloke: he wouldn't - and doesn't - do that to the likes of Richard Wigmore or Nicholas Kenyon.
As much as I like Karajan's performance, and I do, I find the recording too flashy and glaringly OTT. I warmed to Thielemann this time around. And for heavens sake where was Kempe?
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Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostDare I ask what would your “winner” would be ? Or are there sectional winners ?
But for the Ausklang, I’ve never heard a better rendition than VPO/Ozawa, which didn’t feature today.
I’ve been asked before and have stated my preferred versions, and in my vast collection most recordings are pretty good. Rock bottom are the two Welser-Möst versions. I just don’t know what he’s playing at.
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
No. One's enough.
I did notice AMcG pushing the HvK whenever it was mentioned. I also noticed that they only discussed the good bits - nothing about the off-stage band being nothing of the kind, the suspect tuning, or the recorded imbalance of the strings.
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The blu-ray disc of the first six CDs in the ‘Deluxe’ DG set of Strauss/Karajan provides the best sound available of these recordings dating back to 1959. Disappointingly, the Alpine Symphony is on CD7 and therefore missing from the blu-ray disc. Did DG think that they had remastered the much-criticised original sonics to the extent that inclusion on the blu-ray wasn’t necessary? A bit of a lost opportunity, given that this recording apparently has its admirers.
Not only no Kempe/DS, but no Haitink/RCO either - his offstage horns are marvellous, as is the rest. [Someone mentioned he was included… I must have nodded off having to listen to AMG.]
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This BaL rather disappointing; no great inclination to listen to the work at the moment. By contrast I’ve listened to Elgar’s Violin Concerto maybe 7-8 times last fortnight.
We needed more of the old Ted Greenfield knack of summing up a performance, the general approach, in a couple of sentences.
I do want to catch up with the two Jurowski discs sometime.
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Originally posted by Alison View PostThis BaL rather disappointing; no great inclination to listen to the work at the moment. By contrast I’ve listened to Elgar’s Violin Concerto maybe 7-8 times last fortnight.
We needed more of the old Ted Greenfield knack of summing up a performance, the general approach, in a couple of sentences.
I do want to catch up with the two Jurowski discs sometime.
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That's three times that the Karajan recording has come out top on BaL. This can't be a coincidence and perhaps Karajan's detractors in this work need to consider that they might be wrong.
I don't know which remastering other forumites have but I bought the original LP and then CD (on one track!) and thought both sounded glassy and coarse. I've had new equipment since then and listening to the remastering done for the 2012 Karajan 1980s box was a revelation. I'm presuming that it is the same as this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strauss-Ein...rpt=ABIS_MUSIC"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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